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00:41:32<Jonboy345>When running the various containers (project dedicated or warrior), how much data is being written to disk by the container? Does it try to perform as much work in memory as possible or does it write a fair bit of data during the download to disk, to be read again for compression and upload?
00:46:40<@JAA>It does write to disk quite heavily unless your kernel aggressively buffers file writes in memory. I'm pretty sure there's a temporary file for each download. And the WARCs are definitely on disk.
00:47:28<@JAA>Some people have had success mounting a tmpfs into the container at the appropriate location. Breaks when you try to process large items and run out of space in the tmpfs, of course.
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00:53:12<cm>are there any conventions for how to organize tarballs on a tape
00:53:32<cm>like should I put everything in a single parent directory
00:54:07<cm>any precedents/conventions for where to put info about the provenance of the data
00:54:40<cm>I was thinking of putting an info.tar.gz file containing a README and my wget script and its output when it was run
00:55:23<cm>then the main data is in directories created by wget according to how it was set up on the archive.org servers
00:55:33<cm>jre-001-837, etc.
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04:16:57<P11>Long-running Filipino forum PinoyExchange to close on April 15th for undisclosed reasons: https://twitter.com/pinoyexchange/status/1643040936874876928
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04:31:47<P11>A few has asked for help: https://twitter.com/princeyice/status/1643101411776016389#m https://twitter.com/electroedge/status/1643079327586848769#m
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04:33:19<P11>PinoyExchange.com, which is behind CF, is currently hammered.
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05:49:18<audrooku|m>didn't know pinoy was mentioned, cheers
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12:10:41<h2ibot>NightHnh099 edited Deathwatch (+199, Add PinoyExchange): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49630&oldid=49626
12:11:41<h2ibot>Maakuth edited ArchiveTeam Warrior (+231, enable-linger is sometimes necessary): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49631&oldid=49621
12:15:42<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+363, /* 2023 */ Add Gears of War Forums and Bedrock…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49632&oldid=49630
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13:00:45<@JAA>pomf.cat seems to still be online.
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13:07:53<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+86, Dead sites are dead): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49633&oldid=49632
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15:08:40<S232>Now that PinoyExchange.com's 504s have lessened, is it the time for a grab?
15:10:27<pabs> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/apr/04/amazon-to-close-book-depository-online-shop
15:11:04<pabs>https://www.bookdepository.com/closure
15:15:17<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Deathwatch (+176): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49634&oldid=49633
15:16:03<pabs>(added book depository)
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15:50:19<tech_exorcist>hello, just a quick question: where should i look to find a file that was hosted on https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net ?
15:50:52<tech_exorcist>(s/ just a quick question://)
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15:52:57<tech_exorcist>i'm thinking archiveteam_urls
15:55:45<@JAA>tech_exorcist: WBM
15:55:48<pabs>do you not have the full URL?
15:56:16<@JAA>Without at least a partial URL, you're going to be searching for a long while though.
15:56:36<tech_exorcist>pabs: i do
15:57:21<tech_exorcist>JAA: i checked WBM (assuming that's the wayback machine), google cache, archive.is, and two other sites that archive.is links to, but one is broken and the other is in japanese (although it looks like an error message)
15:57:36<tech_exorcist>WBM does have other urls from that host, but not the one i'm looking for
15:57:38<@JAA>Yeah, then just plug it into the WBM. If it isn't there, it won't be in the WARCs either. The WBM is just an interface to the WARCs, basically.
15:58:10<tech_exorcist>so if it's not in WBM it's not going to be in archiveteam_urls either (unless it was added very recently)?
15:58:29<@JAA>Correct
15:58:43<tech_exorcist>i see
15:59:00<tech_exorcist>welp, thanks anyway
15:59:01<@JAA>Virtually all our stuff goes into the WBM. Exceptions confirm the rule, e.g. Zippyshare won't be in the WBM because it's excluded.
15:59:26<tech_exorcist>good to know
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16:12:39<fbhnhdjdhnjdkdnkjns>are you making a web archive mirror site
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16:19:19<@JAA>Do we need a wiki page about that yet?
16:19:58<michaelblob>just make a bot that responds to any message with a combination of those words :P
16:20:18<tech_exorcist>using chatgpt /s
16:21:19<tech_exorcist>on a more serious note, it could be added to the FAQ
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20:42:03<tech234a>https://torrentfreak.com/music-labels-win-legal-battle-against-youtube-dls-hosting-provider-230404/
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21:08:32<audrooku|m>everything is illegal in germany
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21:42:02<@JAA>My thought process: They've won the legal battle? Oh no... Ah, Uberspace will appeal, so the war goes on, good... 'district court of Hamburg ruled' Oooh, ok, now it makes sense. That court has been making stupid rulings for decades by now. There's some reason for that, but I don't remember what it was.
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21:57:04<TheTechRobo>What next? Will they sue screen recorders because you can record copyrighted material? Will they ban security testing tools because you can do illegal stuff with them (but also legal stuff)?
21:57:53<klg>yes, and yes, how did you guess it?
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22:01:43<@JAA>They already did the latter one in Germany a while ago. It's actually a significant problem for the cybersecurity IT in the country.
22:02:13<TheTechRobo>JAA: lmao I was just joking and here you are saying it's true... Sometimes I really hate the world we live in.
22:03:10<nicolas17>TheTechRobo: https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2023/03/24/the-riaa-v-steve-jobs/
22:07:26<@JAA>TheTechRobo: It's called the 'hacker paragraph' and basically bans producing tools that could be used to access data behind protection measures. The wording is very vague, and it's still not really clear whether pentesting would be legal or not. §202c StGB, though I'm not sure there are many non-German resources on it.
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22:09:46<pokechu22>Isn't it also impossible to release your own work into the public domain in Germany?
22:12:32<@arkiver>JAA: lol they actually banned that?
22:12:38<@JAA>pokechu22: Sort of, yeah. It's not entirely clear but generally taken that way. However, that's actually true in quite a few jurisdictions. That's why CC0 exists, after all.
22:13:03<@arkiver>wording is vague, and sounds like something to arbitrarily arrest/prosecute people with that become annoying
22:13:33<@JAA>arkiver: Yup, back in 2007. CCC was telling them it was a horrible idea, but they obviously didn't listen.
22:13:51<@arkiver>2007 already
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22:15:04<@JAA>Anyone doing significant work in that kind of area basically left Germany due to the legal uncertainty. And now they have trouble finding people with IT security knowledge. <surprised_pikachu.png>
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