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01:31:48<lennier1>Nice, that looks correct--420827 accounts. I figured it might be possible to get with the API, which is now $100/month. Should we do anything with that information? I figure those are, to some approximation, the most politically or culturally significant accounts.
01:32:35<nicolas17>the API is only $100/month if you follow the rules (:
01:33:42<nicolas17>and using the internal APIs might give more info, for example this code apparently can distinguish between the different kinds of verified https://github.com/0xallie/sora/blob/main/sora/cogs/twitter.py
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18:22:40<LegitSi>My apologies, I haven't been following ArchiveTeam in a month or the SG project, life's been occupying me with other things. Have the StripGenerator files in a place where I can access them?
18:22:55<LegitSi>Or some kind of equivalent. I'm rather clueless when it comes to these things, sorry.
18:23:32<LegitSi>Have the SG files been compiled in a place where I can access them?* English is hard.
18:26:34<@JAA>They're all in the Wayback Machine. https://web.archive.org/web/202302*/https://s3.amazonaws.com/stripgenerator/strip/* lists the first 10k of them (because that's the WBM's limit). You can narrow it down from there to list all of them. The raw data is in these files: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/dwwdt
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18:54:11<LegitSi>Thank you very much JAA :D
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22:30:07<cm>I'm about to write some joe rogan videos downloaded from archive.org to lto5 tape
22:30:18<cm>it's 2.2 tb so I'll need 2 tapes I think
22:30:31<nicolas17>what a waste of tape /s
22:30:52<cm>the alternative is a waste of hard drive space ;)
22:31:13<nicolas17>fair point
22:31:39<nicolas17>at what amount of storage does lto tape become a better idea than hard disks? (afaik the drive is expensive)
22:32:16<cm>well I got my lto5 drive for a little over $200 on ebay
22:32:43<cm>it was shipped from the UK using some official ebay logistics service, and it arrived with a small dent in the metal case
22:32:53<cm>I took a picture and ebay refunded me :)
22:33:07<cm>I believe it came out of ebay's pockets not the seller :)
22:33:27<cm>also had to sign an affadavit affirming that the item arrived damaged
22:34:09<cm>but your question also depends on how often you expect to access the data
22:34:55<cm>tape is supposed to last 30 years in cold storage; hard disks are meant to be kept spinning
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22:36:17<cm>so I guess it's hard to answer because nobody really knows how often you are supposed to spin up hard disks to make sure your data is safe, or how often you should reread the tapes for the same purpose
22:37:57<cm>I personally feel much safer reading tapes every 5-10 years than I would with hard drives. tapes have a lot of built in bitrot protection as well
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22:41:16<cm>I have just two 8tb NASs in different locations, feels worth it to me to offload 1.5tb-3tb of data that I practically never access onto two redundant tapes when the NAS fills up
22:41:51<nicolas17>atm I have most of my data hoarding in backblaze b2, then someone else takes care of keeping the drives spinning and replacing bad ones
22:42:04<nicolas17>but I guess mainly it's the irrational psych effect that each individual gigabyte I add (at $0.005) is easier to justify than buying a new hard disk
22:44:21<cm>I think my approach is pretty irrational because I don't factor in the cost of time spend figuring out how this shit works, and maintaining it
22:44:31<nicolas17>:P
22:45:20<cm>it satisfies the tin foil hat part of me which is worried about dystopian scenarios where internet can't be relied upon
22:45:45<nicolas17>yeah same, getting a NAS is a whole Decision Process and money upfront, and sending 10 more gigs to B2 is easier and "cheaper", except if that's done repeatedly it adds up
22:45:56<cm>and where the world will be saved if they can watch brian redban talk about "spidermanning" a hotel room
22:48:04<nicolas17>one time kde.org's source version control server had massive filesystem corruption (IIRC the RAID controller went nuts and started writing data shifted by a few megabytes)
22:49:05<nicolas17>git and SVN had mirrors (which is not the same as "backups" but still), and if some git commits were lost, devs would have them locally and push them back
22:49:29<nicolas17>but it turned out the only copy of the preserved-for-history "cvs-archive.tar.xz" was likely the one on my laptop
22:49:47<nicolas17>everyone kept asking me "why the hell did you even have that on your laptop"
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23:40:17<@JAA>nicolas17: I did some estimates on HDD vs LTO close to a decade ago; I don't think much has changed since. Yes, the drive is the big upfront cost. IIRC, my result at the time was something like 100 to 300 TB, depending on the LTO generation and which additional infrastructure you need (e.g. tape library or SAS interfaces). If you can acquire a suitable drive at a reduced price, e.g. from company
23:40:23<@JAA>liquidation or similar, then it's pretty much a no-brainer.
23:41:29<@JAA>And anything like B2 is ridiculously more expensive than either option, of course.
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