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| 05:05:37 | <@JAA> | schwarzkatz|m: I've dumped the Git repos for all users appearing in your list. I figured some users might have components split out into other repos or similar. Bundles are being uploaded now. |
| 05:08:14 | <@JAA> | There's one Mercurial repo, haven't dumped that yet. |
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| 10:45:08 | <@kaz> | nepeat / rewby, did you work out your tracker-related bits |
| 10:45:16 | <@kaz> | (just working through a weeks worth of irc backlog) |
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| 11:44:41 | <C0NN1E> | Hi! I was kind of curious if anyone knew why bethesda.net is so difficult to archive on wayback. Here's an example of what I mean, archived by archivteam |
| 11:44:50 | <C0NN1E> | https://web.archive.org/web/20200922001835/https://bethesda.net/en/article/6VgEkdHqTecgYwSCkiqyeq/creator-spotlight-elianora |
| 11:45:10 | <C0NN1E> | Page fails to load the actual content, stuck on a loading screen. |
| 11:45:28 | <madpro|m> | It has a lot to do with visibility. If there isn't much in-linking to bethesda.net IA won't crawl enough to find it. |
| 11:45:39 | <madpro|m> | That has been a constant problem with forums, for ages. |
| 11:45:51 | <C0NN1E> | Ah, I see |
| 11:45:54 | | madpro|m rereads |
| 11:46:37 | <madpro|m> | Ok this is after 2020 |
| 11:46:48 | <C0NN1E> | now, I have been successful archiving bethesda.net links on archive.today. |
| 11:46:50 | <madpro|m> | Sorry I was in the wrong era, let me recalibrate my time McGuffin |
| 11:46:55 | <C0NN1E> | No worries |
| 11:47:09 | <C0NN1E> | Yeah, the 2020 links do not work, nor do the 2022 ones work. |
| 11:47:28 | <madpro|m> | I believe it's the Cookie Dialogue and JS that is blocking a first-time visitors view |
| 11:47:42 | <C0NN1E> | Ahhh, okay. That makes a bit more sense. |
| 11:47:58 | <madpro|m> | archive.today is a lot better in this regard, because they have figured out how to handle cookies and other "Web 2.0" artefacts |
| 11:48:16 | <C0NN1E> | Ah, yeah. I guess for now, for this site, I'll just use .today |
| 11:48:41 | <madpro|m> | There is probably a "how many archivists does it take archive a webpage?" joke to be made here. |
| 11:48:57 | <C0NN1E> | I work on Independent Fallout Wiki and I've been archiving interviews and developer statements on both sites. |
| 11:49:02 | <C0NN1E> | ahaha, yeah |
| 11:49:12 | <madpro|m> | I know that the owner of archive.today has a Tumblr blog where they answer questions, it might be worth asking them more about it on there |
| 11:49:14 | <madpro|m> | Hang on... |
| 11:49:54 | <madpro|m> | https://blog.archive.today/ and https://blog.archive.today/ask |
| 11:50:11 | <C0NN1E> | Danke! :> |
| 11:52:55 | <C0NN1E> | I guess for the future, I'll use archive.today for this site specifically |
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| 12:27:07 | <@rewby> | kaz: Our what bits? |
| 12:30:43 | <madpro|m> | C00NN1E: From the FAQ |
| 12:30:43 | <madpro|m> | Q: Do you preserve archivers' privacy? E.g. not disclose the source IP address? |
| 12:30:43 | <madpro|m> | A: Yes. |
| 12:30:43 | <madpro|m> | But take in mind that when you archive a page, your IP is being sent to the the website you archive as though you are using a proxy (in X-Forwarded-For header). This feature allows websites (e.g shops or the sites with weather forecast) target your region, not mine. |
| 12:31:22 | <madpro|m> | This is probably the first step of it, Internet Archive does all archiving anonymously unless the user is logged in. Hence internet censorship is no big deal |
| 12:31:56 | <madpro|m> | Bu conversely the agent will be a "first-time user" each ttime |
| 12:41:15 | <@kaz> | rewby: https://irc.kurt.gg/uploads/3df5b45026d88fde/image.png |
| 12:41:56 | <@rewby> | kaz: They wanted to know how the tracker works and if/where code is available. |
| 12:42:06 | <@rewby> | And 301'd that question to you |
| 12:42:19 | <@rewby> | Because I recall the adventures of Kaz in tracker land |
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| 13:23:21 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | madpro|m: According to https://blog.archive.today/post/688077534761566208/does-archiving-a-webpage-send-the-users-ip , that has been outdated since 2019. ("It was so in old version (before 2019) to get localized versions. Now it is useless, because nowadays most of localizations are “this page is not for your country”, so the IP is not passed |
| 13:23:22 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | to the host site.") |
| 13:25:58 | <madpro|m> | 🥲 |
| 13:26:22 | <madpro|m> | I guess the silver lining is that there is more than one way to skin a cat. |
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| 13:59:10 | <schwarzkatz|m> | is uploadir done? I see 206k items are done, which is roughly the amount of non 404 urls |
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| 14:37:51 | <neggles> | i've seen my pods pull a few things here and there |
| 14:37:56 | <neggles> | not a great deal of action, though |
| 14:41:56 | <@arkiver> | uploadir is pretty much done! |
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| 15:07:19 | <h2ibot> | Arcorann edited Niconico (+737): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49269&oldid=48460 |
| 15:08:00 | <@arkiver> | JAA: is karayou.com something that can be done with qwarc? |
| 15:08:07 | <@arkiver> | (see deathwatch) |
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| 17:33:16 | <thuban> | hikari_no_yume: the channel for internet archive discussion is #internetarchive |
| 17:33:32 | <hikari_no_yume> | thanks! |
| 17:33:33 | <thuban> | (but i think you'll want to look at the file metadata schema: https://archive.org/developers/metadata-schema/#file-metadata-schema) |
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| 20:37:23 | <@JAA> | arkiver: Yeah, can be done. |
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| 22:43:59 | <Doomaholic> | Anything left to do for V LIVE? I saw you guys are having some issues with uploading. Looks like there's a few items remaining, I assume those are waiting to be uploaded or maybe not important |
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| 22:48:54 | <@JAA> | Doomaholic: #viva-la-vlive is the V LIVE channel. |
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| 22:50:46 | <Doomaholic> | Oh sorry, wrong channel |
| 23:11:57 | <schwarzkatz|m> | yet another missing channel on the matrix bridge :c |
| 23:17:09 | <Doomaholic> | IRC is the only thing that matters |
| 23:17:31 | <Doomaholic> | ;) |
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| 23:23:32 | <schwarzkatz|m> | >:( |
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| 23:38:32 | <@JAA> | schwarzkatz|m: Are you just talking about Sanqui's space? There's nothing we need to do to enable Matrix users joining channels, right? |
| 23:39:47 | <@JAA> | (And yes, IRC > Matrix) |
| 23:40:22 | <schwarzkatz|m> | I guess I am? ...I have no idea how this works, I cannot join channels that are not in this space apparently |
| 23:44:15 | <@JAA> | I know even less about it, apart from 'it breaks occasionally'. |
| 23:47:02 | <schwarzkatz|m> | fair enough |
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