| 00:23:37 | <audrooku|m> | Who makes these irc channels that get linked on the wiki? |
| 00:23:37 | <audrooku|m> | If I wanted to start up a project for a specific site and wanted a dedicated channel how would I go about that? |
| 00:29:09 | <@JAA> | The first (and most important!) step is to come up with a good name. It must be a pun. Maybe make some suggestions here and see if others agree or come up with a better one. Then make it clear which one's decided, mention that here, and follow the instructions at https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Archiveteam:IRC#Creating_a_channel (though I have no idea how that interacts with the Matrix |
| 00:29:15 | <@JAA> | bridge). And create a wiki page (or edit the existing one) to add the channel name. |
| 00:32:15 | <audrooku|m> | Alright noted, thank you :) |
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| 01:10:24 | <pabs> | ok, the 01.org EOL sounds more urgent to archive it: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/4180e0a0/ |
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| 09:36:38 | <@arkiver> | audrooku|m: which site? |
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| 12:19:25 | <@Sanqui|m> | If you create a new channel, to get it included in the Matrix space, please write to me or to #archiveteam-matrix:matrix.org (ideally ping me too. that channel is strictly for discussing the Matrix space) |
| 12:22:23 | <@Sanqui|m> | (if you're not in the space, you can join it from https://matrix.to/#/#archive-team:matrix.org) |
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| 13:04:17 | <DiscantX> | So since I'm kind of new here, I'll bite: What's matrix? The url to get there isn't decentralized. Why should I go there over IRC? |
| 13:06:50 | <Maakuth|m> | matrix.to is a landing page to make matrix rooms more discoverable |
| 13:06:51 | <@Sanqui> | Matrix is a decentralized chat protocol which many IRC servers, including Hackint, provide a bridge to. The URL is just for convenience, you can use any homeserver to access the space and rooms (channels). If you want to talk more about Matrix, #archiveteam-ot |
| 13:06:56 | <Maakuth|m> | https://matrix.org/ |
| 13:17:18 | <DiscantX> | also, what is a bridge? |
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| 14:02:33 | <madpro|m> | A bridge is a room on one network that connects to a room on some other network, hence the name |
| 14:03:45 | <madpro|m> | So from you stand you are on #archiveteam-bs on hackint |
| 14:04:10 | <madpro|m> | But I’m on a parallel #archiveteam-bs room on matrix (non-IRC) |
| 14:04:33 | <madpro|m> | * where |
| 14:05:23 | <DiscantX> | so you aren't on IRC right now? |
| 14:06:43 | <madpro|m> | Thus #archiveteam-bs@irc.hackint.org is a bridge to #archiveteam-bs@matrix.org (or #archiveteam-bs@madpro.world in my case) |
| 14:07:18 | <madpro|m> | And our messages sync, with some minimal delay |
| 14:11:16 | <DiscantX> | So, if I understand, my messages right now are being redirected to some central server that rebroadcats them to you, and the same for your messages to me? |
| 14:14:23 | <DiscantX> | Or how are we connected right now? |
| 14:14:28 | <DiscantX> | P2P? |
| 14:27:14 | <h2ibot> | Audrey3005 edited Bandcamp (+123, mention artist sitemap.xml): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48993&oldid=46563 |
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| 14:42:13 | <ThreeHM> | https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/ has been acquired by Avast (link for the announcement: https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/whats-new/acquisition/) |
| 14:42:33 | <ThreeHM> | Might be worth running the website through AB, not sure if/how we can get the extension itself |
| 14:42:55 | <theblazehen|m> | DiscantXits it's federated, think like how multiple servers can be part of one network |
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| 14:43:32 | <theblazehen|m> | ThreeHM: website itself doesn't matter too much I imagine, and source is (as of last night, haven't checked since) still available on github |
| 14:44:16 | <theblazehen|m> | The ABP blocklist is also available for usage (I switched to using the blocklist in ublock origin personally) |
| 14:44:31 | <theblazehen|m> | Part of one irc network* |
| 14:50:25 | <@JAA> | I don't see any official GitHub repo. |
| 14:52:02 | <theblazehen|m> | Yeah, my bad. Was relating second hand knowledge. Extension is released under a FOSS license, but not in a convenient form - you need to grab the zip and extract it yourself |
| 14:53:36 | <theblazehen|m> | Can grab them all here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-about-cookies/versions/ |
| 14:54:03 | <@JAA> | Yeah, except no, because it only goes back to 3.1.9. |
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| 14:54:46 | <@JAA> | I guess the older versions were XPI-based and removed from AMO. |
| 14:55:01 | <@JAA> | (Which means they should be in my archive of that.) |
| 14:55:42 | <@JAA> | Actually no, the AMO removal of XPI extensions was in late 2018, and there were a dozen releases between then and 3.1.9. |
| 14:55:55 | <@JAA> | Pale Moon has more versions: https://addons.palemoon.org/releases/i-dont-care-about-cookies/ |
| 14:56:22 | <@JAA> | (But no direct links to the XPI files...) |
| 14:57:11 | <theblazehen|m> | https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/3607845/i_dont_care_about_cookies-3.1.8.xpi is still live even though not listed on the page I linked |
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| 14:59:10 | <theblazehen|m> | Running for major in {0..3}; do for minor in {0..9}; do for patch in {0..9}; do wget https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/3707490/i_dont_care_about_cookies-$major.$minor.$patch.xpi; done; done; done |
| 15:00:34 | <@JAA> | That won't work. |
| 15:00:44 | <theblazehen|m> | Why not? |
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| 15:01:11 | <@JAA> | Because that big number there is a file ID. |
| 15:01:34 | <theblazehen|m> | Ah shit, you're right |
| 15:01:45 | <@JAA> | Server doesn't care about the filename IIRC. |
| 15:01:59 | <@JAA> | Also confirmed, the old versions are gone. |
| 15:02:13 | <@JAA> | https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/240533/i_dont_care_about_cookies-0.6.0.0-fx.xpi is the oldest one I have in my AMO archives. |
| 15:02:43 | <@JAA> | (Oh yeah, I never uploaded that to IA, did I?) |
| 15:03:40 | <@JAA> | https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/1070095/i_dont_care_about_cookies-2.9.0-an+fx.xpi is the newest one I grabbed in Sept 2018, and that still exists (so it's presumably a WebExtension). |
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| 15:05:11 | <@JAA> | Compiling a list of the files since then and throwing that into AB. |
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| 15:23:52 | <@JAA> | Oh right, I remember why the XPIs aren't on IA, that was my WARC header fuckup. Soon™... |
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| 17:27:52 | <Ryz> | Heya folks, can someone be able to 'record the last hours of the stream' as JAA puts it, regarding https://nsbradio.co.uk/ ? It's gonna shut down in less than 6 hours now |
| 17:29:17 | <theblazehen|m> | I'll grab it |
| 17:33:13 | <thuban> | theblazehen|m: are you definitely on it? i am starting a janky non-warc spider, but the site is slow so i'll drop it if you're better-equipped |
| 17:33:33 | <@JAA> | This is specifically about the radio stream. The website's already being covered in AB. |
| 17:34:05 | <theblazehen|m> | thuban: I'm gonna grab with yt-dlp, worked for a test grab of it I did |
| 17:34:11 | <thuban> | oic, never mind. i believe i missed the original discussion |
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| 17:43:08 | <theblazehen|m> | Grabbing as of now |
| 19:17:46 | <Ryz> | Wondering if there's a way to contact the people at https://nsbradio.co.uk/ - tricky tricky though... |
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| 19:53:48 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | Ryz: https://chat.nsbradio.co.uk/ says "NSB Radio is closing - so we've opened up our Slack chat room to all for instant access" and has a link, maybe you could try there |
| 19:54:25 | <Ryz> | I don't know if it's possible to archive Slack chatrooms at all, uhh |
| 19:54:39 | <Ryz> | Seems it requires an account, oof |
| 19:54:54 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | I meant related to the contacting them message |
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| 20:18:32 | <@arkiver> | JAA: is the slow site in AB the same one providing nbsradio.co.uk with the streams? |
| 20:18:57 | <@arkiver> | ah! |
| 20:19:05 | <@arkiver> | Ryz: you mean recording the actual stream? |
| 20:21:07 | <@JAA> | arkiver: The slow site is the archives at https://archives.nsbradio.co.uk/ . And yeah, I meant the actual stream, i.e. recording the last few hours of the dying radio station. |
| 20:21:26 | <@arkiver> | #radio-archive |
| 20:21:30 | <@arkiver> | going to get it recorded at IA |
| 20:21:40 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 20:27:56 | <@arkiver> | added, recording starts in a bit |
| 20:45:24 | <nerdguy1138> | JAA: so how do radio stations die nowadays? just suddenly "signal lost?" |
| 20:45:46 | <@JAA> | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 20:46:07 | <@JAA> | This one's an internet radio, so probably the connection will just die at some point. |
| 20:46:41 | <@JAA> | AM/FM/DAB/whatever radio will probably just switch to static noise when they stop transmitting? |
| 20:47:02 | <@JAA> | Well, not sure how that works with DAB actually, but anyway. |
| 20:49:23 | <nerdguy1138> | JAA: my dad remembers one of the first tv stations, fox_uhf, played 10000BC, then rewound it in the middle, to see who would notice. |
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| 20:49:36 | <nerdguy1138> | as their first broadcast |
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| 20:53:10 | <@arkiver> | if we ever need a radio station recorded, report it in #radio-archive ! |
| 21:20:01 | <@JAA> | Looks like their archives can more or less handle two concurrent continuous downloads from AB, no more. |
| 21:20:48 | <@JAA> | I assume there's an aspect of cache busting here, since it goes through Buttflare but much of the files are probably rarely accessed and thus not cached. |
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| 22:46:53 | <nerdguy1138> | JAA: can someone throw neopets.com inthe archiving pile? |
| 22:47:21 | <nerdguy1138> | lots of user-generated stuff there, and the flash die-off really crippled it. |
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| 23:13:35 | <fastboot> | Hello, I have started an archive project aiming to archive all Smart TV content, mainly apps to preserve. This will also include smart fridges, smart tv boxes and dvrs, and other IoT stuff. Please join if you have a smart tv or smart tv box or any other IoT device with App Store, and/or a computer and programming skills. Please send this to any |
| 23:13:35 | <fastboot> | other archival group and smart tv related group. https://discord.gg/Cw4JxA8a |
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| 23:31:19 | <@JAA> | nerdguy1138: Yeah, archiving Neopets should certainly be done, but it's not easy. Feel free to add it to the relevant wiki page, probably Fire Drill. |
| 23:36:00 | <Jake> | (was `fastboot` and `smarttvarchive` bonga?) |
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| 23:47:23 | <bonga> | Yes that’s me |
| 23:47:27 | <bonga> | how do you know |
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| 23:50:07 | <Jake> | May I recommend using one username? |
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