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| 09:02:44 | <asie4> | OrIdow6: Unfortunately I was wrong, the search engine is also login-walled. I haven't been on the website in years... Identifying rare downloads automatically is a non-option. |
| 09:03:21 | <asie4> | I've started downloading interesting material on my own, but it's limited to things I can think to search for |
| 09:03:50 | <asie4> | like community zines (which aren't already, say, on Wayback - after all, there are the strict download limits) |
| 09:04:51 | <asie4> | ... It's not login-walled. It's just that the front page doesn't show it. Let me show an example |
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| 09:05:55 | <asie4> | https://chomikuj.pl/asiekierka This is my account on Chomikuj. It has two files: one is under 1MB, one is over 1MB |
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| 09:06:20 | <asie4> | You can download the file under 1MB by either logging in or filling out a ReCaptcha |
| 09:06:37 | <asie4> | ("Pobierz" = "Download", "Zaloguj się" = "Log in") |
| 09:06:57 | <asie4> | The file over 1MB requires either sending an (overpriced) premium SMS, or logging in to an account |
| 09:07:23 | <asie4> | To the top-right there's a search bar. It allows searching for files ("pliki") or for accounts ("chomiki"). |
| 09:07:49 | <asie4> | This makes a POST call to https://chomikuj.pl/action/SearchFiles which is a paginated list of all the results found. |
| 09:08:13 | <asie4> | Any account on Chomikuj can be browsed without an account, so its files can be mapped out, and the page lists (sans files) scraped by ArchiveBot and similar - you just need a list of all users |
| 09:08:46 | <asie4> | One exception is password-locked folders. The feature was intended for privacy, but some people just provide the password in the folder name - I'm not sure why, my assumption is preventing scraping/staving off takedown notices. |
| 09:09:13 | <asie4> | Of course, the site is merely "in danger" - to be exact, there's a Polish supreme court ruling which states that it can be held liable for contributory copyright damages. |
| 09:09:23 | <asie4> | I wouldn't say it's an urgency. |
| 09:10:55 | <asie4> | Some files also offer recompressed previews; I have uploaded an image file as proof - these could potentially be scraped without going through ReCaptcha as well |
| 09:11:30 | <asie4> | Downloading files over 50MB is a non-option without donor accounts; you can make an arbitrary number of free accounts, but they are limited to 50MB of free downloads a week each. |
| 09:11:48 | <asie4> | Many people have some gigabytes left from their less legalistic days, however these should be used with great care. |
| 09:12:12 | <asie4> | It's a limited supply, and the site charges like $0.30/GB |
| 09:13:34 | <asie4> | I hope this context helps somewhat. I have to get back to work. |
| 09:14:53 | <asie4> | (Oh, one last thing: the site is not blocked from Google or Bing. That could be a starting point for generating a list of accounts.) |
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| 09:47:54 | <pabs> | https://www.search.io/ acquired: https://www.algolia.com/about/news/algolia-disrupts-market-with-search-io-acquisition-ushering-in-a-new-era-of-search-and-discovery/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32834220 |
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| 10:33:14 | <Nemo_bis> | Algolia is a menace |
| 11:00:11 | <h2ibot> | JAABot edited CurrentWarriorProject (+4): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48992&oldid=48990 |
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| 11:59:23 | <pabs> | https://www.figma.com/ might get acquired https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-15/adobe-is-said-to-near-deal-to-buy-online-design-startup-figma https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32850178 |
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| 12:28:44 | <pabs> | https://news.adobe.com/news/news-details/2022/Adobe-to-Acquire-Figma/default.aspx |
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| 21:42:57 | <lennier1> | There are mass layoffs at Fanbyte, including the site's editor in chief. https://kotaku.com/fanbyte-website-layoffs-tencent-staff-g4tv-future-1849540893 |
| 21:44:06 | <systwi_> | Thanks lennier1, Ryz tackled this earlier. |
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| 21:58:27 | <Ryz> | Yeah, been having to archive all Twitter accounts current and former Fanbyte Media employees |
| 21:58:59 | <Ryz> | The bggest ticket for a proactive would be archiving the website itself |
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| 22:21:44 | <lennier1> | FWIW Danielle Riendeau, the former editor in chief, retweeted this speculating that content could be deleted: https://twitter.com/JillPantozzi/status/1570497469959778304 |
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| 23:30:15 | <pabs> | there is a rumour 01.org is EOLed, some lists are apparently moving elsewhere. I expect this will be kind of big since it has some mailing lists. https://paste.debian.net/hidden/3e10c5e7/ |
| 23:30:24 | <pabs> | (it is Intel's open source site) |
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| 23:48:11 | <michaelblob_> | Ryz: i have the site running through grab-site and the warc looks good, maybe we can put it on archivebot? |
| 23:53:46 | <michaelblob_> | nvm looks like it's already there |
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