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| 04:56:29 | <RIPFP> | The FilePlanet wiki page needs updating as the site was sold by IGN to a Slovenian malware distribution gang called Innova Media in 2016. |
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| 06:41:36 | <spirit> | https://www.google.com/search?q=Innova+Media+malware is not very informative though |
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| 08:00:40 | <h2ibot> | JAABot edited CurrentWarriorProject (+4): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48782&oldid=48781 |
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| 14:08:20 | <Beamington> | Mapknitter.org and SpectralWorkbench.org will go offline August 15th. |
| 14:08:39 | <Beamington> | https://twitter.com/jywarren/status/1551992638798286851 |
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| 14:57:07 | <thuban> | that thread links to a list of map urls (https://gist.githubusercontent.com/jywarren/8cc1ee8f68a46e227eeb86ca068fdf0c/raw/b158c33dde3e15e070b577e3c408887b68284ce2/all-map-names.txt), but i can't find a source for the shutdown |
| 15:04:42 | <ThreeHM> | This page has the announcement: https://publiclab.org/wiki/mapknitter |
| 15:06:38 | <ThreeHM> | And here is the notice for SpectralWorkbench: https://publiclab.org/wiki/spectral-workbench |
| 15:06:58 | <thuban> | oh, thanks! funny, i didn't see that on either the public lab or mapknitter main pages or in google |
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| 15:13:04 | <ThreeHM> | Huh, it was the second hit on google for me |
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| 15:14:16 | <thuban> | anyway: |
| 15:15:16 | <thuban> | - those map pages require javascript (for both display and export), so this won't be as simple as an archivebot job; |
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| 15:17:14 | <ThreeHM> | Looks like there is a single JSON for each map that has all the relevant information (example: https://mapknitter.org/maps/portion-202/warpables.json) |
| 15:25:26 | <thuban> | ah, good |
| 15:27:01 | <thuban> | - the spectralworkbench site also has a lot of community data we should to look at (jywarren is a member of the publiclab github and appears to be an active maintainer on both projects, so someone might want to reach out and see if we can get an enumeration of that too); |
| 15:28:08 | <thuban> | - the wiki pages of both sites say they'll go down on the 15th, but the sites themselves say the 31st (https://github.com/publiclab/mapknitter/commit/3c0813819117cf6de5540e3497a88751cd956b35, https://github.com/publiclab/spectral-workbench/commit/fecb7a6412f79fa9b4c8bfd6e7c5155e203ea8de); |
| 15:28:25 | <thuban> | - do we know whether any of publiclab's other projects are endangered? |
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| 20:39:57 | <@OrIdow6> | furiffic.com shut down June 1, it appears we did not get it due to lack of awareness |
| 20:45:43 | <h2ibot> | OrIdow6 edited Deathwatch (+169, /* 2022 */ Added Furiffic, site we did not get): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48783&oldid=48776 |
| 20:52:47 | <@OrIdow6> | Makes me think of the question of how to better detect this kind of thing - no #// captures of the homepage within the time the shutdown announcement (keyword if we *did* have some kind of auto detection thing going is "Service termination"), only 2 Twitter posts before the fact |
| 21:04:42 | <thuban> | unfortunately i think it might involve, like, deliberate use of social media |
| 21:07:42 | <thuban> | i know that at least a couple of people keep an eye on the archiveteam subreddit, and people report stuff there, but e.g. somebody tagged @archiveteam on the mapknitter twitter post and if it hadn't also been reported on irc we might not have seen it, because i have no idea whether anyone logs (can log?) into that account |
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| 21:10:35 | <thuban> | not applicable to this or perhaps even most cases, obviously, but helpful on occasion... |
| 21:13:04 | <@JAA> | Such tweets can (mostly) be found without logging in, but someone still has to monitor that. |
| 21:13:14 | <@OrIdow6> | I do feel like the Twitter account could be more active, but I don't have enough involvement with social media to believe that that feeling is necessarily accurate |
| 21:13:58 | <@OrIdow6> | I have thought we could have a channel (maybe I've discussed this before) that collects stuff like that from a few sources |
| 21:14:47 | <thuban> | hey JAA, how about having h2ibot post mentions in here (provided it wouldn't be too noisy)? |
| 21:19:58 | <@JAA> | thuban: That's possible, but I don't have time to set it up currently. |
| 21:21:55 | <thuban> | fair enough; poke me if there's anything it would be convenient to have me help with |
| 21:22:31 | <Jake> | lot of the mentions on twitter seem... spammey. |
| 21:23:22 | <@JAA> | Yeah, the SNR isn't great. Random stuff, requests to archive things without reasonings, etc. And a handful of useful 'this is going down the drain' messages. |
| 21:26:49 | <@OrIdow6> | In the context of even-lower-SNR keyword searches (like on the homepage, as mentioned), I've thought there could be some kind of webpage or similar where there's a list of them with a "reject" button for each, and a click on that gets rid of it for everyone |
| 21:27:03 | <@OrIdow6> | Maybe with an option to filter them out |
| 21:27:17 | <@OrIdow6> | But again, problem is time to make it |
| 21:28:57 | <@JAA> | Yeah, that's similar to an idea I've had for a while: an issue tracker that gets auto-populated from web and social media searches. |
| 21:29:15 | <@OrIdow6> | I think we discussed this before, so I may have gotten that idea from you |
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