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| 00:04:32 | <nirv> | thuban, of course I'm going to seed it. I think it's an important collection. |
| 00:05:43 | <nirv> | I run a 24/7 seedbox in my living room. I need to get another external huge hard drive but I'm waiting for a good deal to come along. |
| 00:13:58 | <nirv> | thuban, my upload speed isn't as good as I'd like it. if I'm ever in the range of fiber, I will be uploading the entire internet several times a day. don't even worry about it. |
| 00:14:22 | <nirv> | But right now I'm 1200/42Mbps only. 42Mbps is the fastest upstream I've ever had since I first got broadband in 1998, but it still isn't that good. |
| 00:16:27 | <nicolas17> | I have 100/20 :D |
| 00:16:31 | <nirv> | ouch! |
| 00:16:45 | <nicolas17> | pretty sure it was 100/10 a year or two ago |
| 00:17:21 | <nicolas17> | uploading 100GB to IA took a while |
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| 00:37:55 | <thuban> | thanks, nirv, i'm glad to hear it. |
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| 00:40:40 | <nirv> | Even with my 42Mbps, I am up to 10.5TB usage this month. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/197420215363960832/947292019225665596/unknown.png |
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| 02:46:22 | <@JAA> | thuban: Let's move all this snscrape dev talk to -dev. |
| 02:48:52 | <thuban> | JAA: will do, i've joined |
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| 04:03:15 | <nirv> | LetMeByte, I won't bug you again because I'll do all the research I need, but what would you recommend for a "cheapo linux vps?" I'm familiar with Virtualbox and in fact am using it right now, but which do you suggest I install? Ubuntu? |
| 04:05:07 | <nicolas17> | I use DigitalOcean, $5/mo |
| 04:05:54 | <nicolas17> | 1TB/mo bandwidth though, so may not be suitable for crazy archiving purposes :P |
| 04:06:25 | <nirv> | no no. I'd never pay for anything on the internet. I just mean running it on my own machines |
| 04:07:03 | <nirv> | there's no need. you run a PC without a monitor in the living room or in a corner somewhere and you get a RealVNC on it. |
| 04:07:17 | <nirv> | get a DDNS and connect remotely to it if you need. $0 |
| 04:15:29 | <nicolas17> | seems you misunderstood "vps" then :P |
| 04:16:23 | <nicolas17> | "A virtual private server (VPS) is a virtual machine sold as a service by an Internet hosting service." |
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| 05:28:09 | <pcr> | nirv: Ubuntu in VirtualBox should be fine. If you have Windows Pro could use Hyper V instead. |
| 05:30:44 | <pcr> | Although if you have any linux os in VirtualBox already that should work fine |
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| 05:42:07 | <nirv> | pcr, I'll make a quick youtube video of the problem I'm having in a few minutes here. it's the weirdest thing and I think it's one of those case it when someone sees it they'll have question marks above their head |
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| 06:15:39 | <nirv> | I took this screenshot 2 days ago on Friday. notice the G-W file was 100% complete? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/872443255281844236/946931553307602944/unknown.png |
| 06:15:59 | <nirv> | here is that same section right now. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/872443255281844236/947376460350488586/unknown.png |
| 06:16:34 | <nirv> | I did a force recheck and files I didn't even manually replace and checking wrong. |
| 06:16:42 | <nirv> | and=are |
| 06:20:48 | <nirv> | ok. I'm just going to try a different torrent client for now. |
| 06:26:14 | <appledash> | Make sure your disk is in good shape |
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| 06:30:54 | <betalover> | hi |
| 06:51:22 | <@OrIdow6> | Hello betalover, what can we do for you? |
| 06:52:29 | <nirv> | you don't have to watch this but this is the trouble I've been having with geo archive. https://youtu.be/RS0fCNo_4Qc |
| 06:52:51 | <nirv> | just uploaded so not yet 4k quality |
| 07:04:12 | <nirv> | appledash, decided to close qbittorrent for now and try tixati. some are saying tixati is more reliable in its crc checking |
| 07:05:46 | <nirv> | nevermind. getting "file too large" on a 2.22K file during recheck. huh. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/872443255281844236/947388944453099520/unknown.png |
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| 11:14:04 | <LetMeByte> | Nirv a linux vps would imply a hosted vm, but if you must do it locally then I'd recommend Debian (for ease of use), or some debian based distro with xfce. Tixati is the best client for Windows IMO, but I never saw that error. If you do things like thins I recommend getting a homeserver anyway, so you always have a seperate baremetal linux machine |
| 11:14:04 | <LetMeByte> | available. |
| 11:16:13 | <LetMeByte> | I'm sure you already resolved the issue yourself, but I find ir strange that the error occurs on the only uppercase file in the 'LOWERCASE' folder |
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| 12:23:45 | <nirv> | the weirdest thing is happening right now. all I did was install unbuntu and deluge in a virtualbox on my PC here and mysteriously I'm having no problem connecting to seeds and it may actually finish. HUH? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/197420215363960832/947468841091469362/unknown.png |
| 12:25:04 | <nirv> | no, I don't have windows firewall blocking programs or ports or anything in windows. i do not have an explanation. well we'll see |
| 12:27:02 | <nirv> | LetMeByte, yeah that's a good point. on the hdd, there are no uppercase files in the lowercase folder, but both qbittorrent and tixati show that to be the case. looking at deluge right now, it's not showing upper case files in lower case folder. interesting. |
| 12:27:29 | <LetMeByte> | sounds like real fun |
| 12:28:10 | <LetMeByte> | the problem is windows, nothing else, for tasks like this it's always best to have a linux machine at hand |
| 12:28:51 | <nirv> | welp. I've used linux in the past but very sparringly. looks like I'd better refresh the basics, especially with the turd windows 11 is |
| 12:29:07 | <nirv> | (don't have, will not have) |
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| 12:30:51 | <LetMeByte> | I'd recommend renting a slot on feralhosting to get started, but you said paying for anything internet related isn't your style (or in your budget?) |
| 12:31:11 | <nirv> | paying for anything on the internet is a violation of the code of ethics and the spirit of the internet. :D |
| 12:31:37 | <nirv> | I know nobody agrees with me, but I'm really stubborn on that. |
| 12:31:38 | <LetMeByte> | If obody paid for enyhing internet related I'd be kinda... non-existent lol |
| 12:32:19 | <appledash> | Are you aware that you (or at least somebody you know) is paying for your Internet connection and the electricity to run your computer? :p |
| 12:32:31 | <nirv> | funny. Fairlight, DEViANCE, Razor1911, RELOADED, CORE, RNS, EGO, and many others released thousands of games, apps, music, movies etc with no benefit to themselves. Same with the emulator MAME. If guys can do that, so can me. |
| 12:32:32 | <LetMeByte> | I can fully understand you there, trust me. I had that mindset myself, not too long ago. ok, maybe some years. >D |
| 12:33:09 | <nirv> | every time I think of money on the internet, I think of Lars Ulrich during the napster days |
| 12:33:12 | <LetMeByte> | appledash and servers tend to need some electricity. also their hardware may have costed a dime or 2 too lol |
| 12:33:19 | <nirv> | "Oh yeah, LARS? Download this! *honk honk*" |
| 12:33:26 | <appledash> | Indeed :p |
| 12:33:36 | <LetMeByte> | fuck Lars Ulrich lol |
| 12:34:34 | <nirv> | because of money, youtubers now think they own videos they upload. if you mirror their stuff, they'll try really, really hard to DMCA/copyright strike you. They don't believe in mirrors. |
| 12:34:58 | <nirv> | they want absolute full control of whether or not you can see their stupid video. |
| 12:35:22 | <LetMeByte> | nirv you see the difference, right? the people you named gave for 'free', they invested their time and effort into what the 'produced' (like the manufacturer of the software in the first place), but you only take for free. that's kinda something else |
| 12:35:42 | <appledash> | Well, it's less because of money and more because of the laws of the country YouTube is based in |
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| 12:36:37 | <nirv> | I might not hacked cracked a game, but I have supplied in the past. I put things online and share a lot. I spend a lot of time mirroring things, similar to you guys, to make sure they're not lost to time. I don't expect anything in return. It's a hobby/passion |
| 12:36:49 | <LetMeByte> | let the youtubers have their way, if they don't have anything important to say they'll protect their shitty 'creations'. otherwise they'd be happy someone spreads the message |
| 12:37:22 | <nirv> | more and more emulators are appearing with paywalls. everyone has their hand out now. it really bugs me. a lot. so I will never pay for a server when I can do it myself. |
| 12:37:32 | <LetMeByte> | so you must've invested at least some money into that hobby, and a lot of time, too |
| 12:37:58 | <nirv> | i look at the internet as the wild west. very few people do anymore |
| 12:38:24 | <appledash> | I had that attitude too until I turned 18 and learned that food costs money :p |
| 12:38:30 | <LetMeByte> | I do everything from home now, but just because I can, now that I got all the necessary hardware. but without a proper server that just sucks lol |
| 12:38:50 | <LetMeByte> | appledash then you went on hungerstrike? :D |
| 12:39:12 | <LetMeByte> | nirv wait until the regulators come your way |
| 12:39:39 | <appledash> | I started charging for the work I do :p |
| 12:39:52 | <nirv> | There was one thing I bought recently. It was the Game Engine Black Book Doom ebook by Fabien Sanglard. only because he was so gracious and confident that he just gave the hi-res pdf away for free and said pay for it, or not. I respect that. https://fabiensanglard.net/gebbdoom/index.html |
| 12:40:19 | <LetMeByte> | appledash that's the sad way it goes, isn't it... I hate to do that, but there's not really an alternative |
| 12:40:53 | <LetMeByte> | nirv >buying ebooks |
| 12:41:08 | <nirv> | at this rate, browsers are going to be behind a paywall. it's all going down. it's all beginning to blow |
| 12:41:43 | <LetMeByte> | time to learn how browsers are made and code one yourself lol |
| 12:41:45 | <nirv> | just checking out the war in ukraine right now, 95% is either behind a paywall (news) or the videos have watermarks. |
| 12:42:07 | <appledash> | I've been following this for a week and have encountered literally 0 paywalls |
| 12:42:28 | <appledash> | Which does surprise me |
| 12:42:28 | <nirv> | well, the sites they're linking over on worldnews on reddit |
| 12:42:37 | <appledash> | I've been following /r/ukraine |
| 12:42:46 | <nirv> | same. full of watermarks and paywalls |
| 12:43:19 | <LetMeByte> | sounds like it's easier to not care |
| 12:43:56 | <LetMeByte> | I do speak a little bit of russian though, if they finally get our asses here where I live, I can communicate :) |
| 12:44:28 | <nirv> | this is on worldnews right now on reddit. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-zelenskiy-says-he-spoke-belarus-lukashenko-2022-02-27/ |
| 12:44:37 | <nirv> | "You have reached your article limit |
| 12:44:37 | <nirv> | Register for FREE to continue using Reuters.com" |
| 12:45:03 | <nirv> | wallet is staying in pocket. |
| 12:45:17 | <LetMeByte> | nirv btw https://fabiensanglard.net/gebb/index.html |
| 12:45:46 | <nirv> | yup I know. I respect that guy. he's decent |
| 12:46:11 | <nirv> | his articles are really good, too. |
| 12:46:29 | <LetMeByte> | getting the physical book sounds way more attractive to me |
| 12:46:37 | <nirv> | https://fabiensanglard.net/3dfx_sst1/index.html |
| 12:46:40 | <nirv> | oh baby that's the stuff |
| 12:47:07 | <LetMeByte> | nice fetish to have |
| 12:47:28 | <nirv> | you telling me that page doesn't tear your slacks? |
| 12:48:03 | <LetMeByte> | I gotta admit that, yes |
| 12:48:07 | <nirv> | show that page to jason scott. I bet he'll slide right off his chair |
| 12:48:13 | <nirv> | hahah! |
| 12:48:27 | <LetMeByte> | I see the appeal, but I'm not interested myself |
| 12:49:28 | <LetMeByte> | If I was a game dev or modder I might be interested in such things, but I mainly focus on OS dev and administration |
| 12:49:37 | <nirv> | something has to be really good for me to take my wallet out is all I'm saying. |
| 12:49:38 | <LetMeByte> | no time to play xD |
| 12:50:00 | <nirv> | i won't pay for youtube premium, netflix, spotify, or stupid apps on my stupid cell phone. it's just nuts. |
| 12:50:02 | <LetMeByte> | I see your point, |
| 12:50:12 | <LetMeByte> | never did lol |
| 12:50:13 | <nirv> | why would I pay for a firewall on my android device when firewalls are free on PC? |
| 12:50:31 | <LetMeByte> | oh, I did, I had spotify for some time, then I realized music streaming sucks |
| 12:50:57 | <LetMeByte> | because .exe on android is kinda impossible |
| 12:51:00 | <nirv> | oh yeah it's bad. not only for quality, but for selection. doesn't have the best versions of albums. it's good for people who don't care about stuff like that |
| 12:51:17 | <LetMeByte> | afwall+ is a good program, getting the upgrade is optional |
| 12:51:47 | <LetMeByte> | also it's very repetitive, you always hear the same junk |
| 12:51:49 | <nirv> | well what I mean is, I configure DD-WRT on my linksys router. I take time and block IPs (some ads) in IPTABLES. android firewall is just using iptables. same thing, but costs money? no no |
| 12:52:19 | <LetMeByte> | umm just put adawat on your android device lol |
| 12:52:30 | <LetMeByte> | 'adaway' |
| 12:52:38 | <nirv> | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/872443255281844236/942763903077736488/unknown.png |
| 12:52:43 | <nirv> | you are correct |
| 12:52:59 | <LetMeByte> | ouch, google apps |
| 12:53:06 | <nirv> | i know. I KNOW. |
| 12:53:13 | <LetMeByte> | is that a pixel phone lol |
| 12:53:17 | <nirv> | I don't use assistant |
| 12:53:30 | <LetMeByte> | I don't HAVE assistant xD |
| 12:53:43 | <nirv> | no. it's a sony xperia 1 III. I'm not a phone guy really, but it had all the things I wanted. (headphone jack, sd card slot, not a lot of bloat) |
| 12:53:50 | <nirv> | (rootable) |
| 12:53:59 | <LetMeByte> | even has a processor and some ram lol |
| 12:54:02 | <LetMeByte> | also screen |
| 12:54:17 | <LetMeByte> | damn, that's a good set of features right there |
| 12:54:25 | <nirv> | well, with osmand+ offline gps, I was able to hike deep in the woods and not die. |
| 12:54:40 | <nirv> | so phones have their uses i admit |
| 12:54:57 | <LetMeByte> | you could've used a paper map and compass though |
| 12:55:06 | <nirv> | I'm not familiar. :P |
| 12:55:08 | <LetMeByte> | requires no electricity kek |
| 12:55:32 | <LetMeByte> | It's easy to learn, but I have to admit I've been a boy scout back in the days. |
| 12:55:34 | <nirv> | i definitely use it most for music during walks and hikes. it's pretty good at that |
| 12:55:47 | <LetMeByte> | you can even navigate by looking at the stars, but I can't do that lol |
| 12:55:54 | <nirv> | were you a weeblow? I think that's how you spell it |
| 12:56:34 | <LetMeByte> | seems like it's 'webelos', and no, I'm not from the US lol |
| 12:56:48 | <nirv> | ah |
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| 12:57:22 | <LetMeByte> | there's liek 10k different groups of boy scout type organizations |
| 12:57:29 | <LetMeByte> | subgrups anyway |
| 12:57:35 | <nirv> | OMFG |
| 12:57:49 | <LetMeByte> | ? |
| 12:57:55 | <nirv> | it completed. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/872443255281844236/947477613927092264/unknown.png |
| 12:58:18 | <LetMeByte> | well happy chanukka, now extract it and see if it works >D |
| 12:58:21 | <nirv> | wallet wants to leave my pocket to thank you. I'm kidding around, sorta |
| 12:58:34 | <nirv> | $$ |
| 12:58:56 | <nirv> | that is the first torrent file I downloaded in 57 years that required linux to complete. |
| 12:59:01 | <LetMeByte> | well you might help yourself to some used server hardware to build a home server, that's a good way to thank me lol |
| 12:59:03 | <nirv> | 57 = 18~ |
| 12:59:46 | <nirv> | Well, I'm no experts on servers. I only run 1 computer in the corner of my living room as my seedbox and it's windows 7 |
| 12:59:50 | <LetMeByte> | I hope it won't be the last file you'll download on linux :D |
| 13:00:06 | <nirv> | I used to use it for windows + CentOS for VoIP phone calling, but not anymore. now it's mostly data storage |
| 13:01:50 | <LetMeByte> | if you can back up the important data, I recommend to install linux on it and use it as a proper server, you'll learn a lot doing that, it will make working with many internet related things MUCH easier |
| 13:01:59 | <nirv> | okay now I have to consider ubuntu or debian for serving thousands of torrents. |
| 13:02:00 | <LetMeByte> | a friend once said windows is like a playgfround for toddlers, if you consider acid mines a playground |
| 13:02:05 | <nirv> | transmission maybe? I don't know. |
| 13:02:34 | <LetMeByte> | I use r(u)torrent and deluge, just to keep things separated |
| 13:02:51 | <nirv> | LetMeByte, well honestly, I don't even know where to start. I've never ran a full linux server and I think I will do fine for now in a virtualbox window. I know it isn't the same |
| 13:03:08 | <spirit> | Offtopic: #archiveteam-ot |
| 13:03:13 | <LetMeByte> | and don't let anyone fool you, just use arch lunix from the beginning. people mighttell you to use anything debian based, but that's not close to reality |
| 13:03:24 | <nirv> | spirit oh oops sorry. I thought that's what BS meant. |
| 13:03:34 | <LetMeByte> | if you can't do anyhing else, then normal debian or devuan |
| 13:03:35 | <spirit> | nah, there are multiple layers of bs :D |
| 13:04:07 | <LetMeByte> | spirit so we should move our discussion there? |
| 13:04:37 | <nirv> | it just blows my mind that two different windows torrent programs failed downloading a large torrent archive and linux did it flawlessly. that's unacceptable to me. |
| 13:04:51 | <nirv> | it makes me wonder if anyone on windows ever successfully downloaded 100% of the geocities archive |
| 13:05:38 | <LetMeByte> | you need to look at where the problem lies. windows (ntfs?) can't handle 2 files with the 'same' name, linux (ext) can. that's the whole difference |
| 13:06:10 | <nirv> | no. I was able to fix that the other day in windows believe it or not. took a powershell command, but it did work. I confirmed. |
| 13:06:30 | <nirv> | however, I don't think 2 files with the same name are even in any of those folders. |
| 13:06:59 | <LetMeByte> | maybe they finally managed to get that into ntfs (or most likely they did some dumb things in their kernel) |
| 13:07:01 | <nirv> | they only list that way in the torrent client, but it's false |
| 13:08:06 | <LetMeByte> | good thing it did eventually work |
| 13:08:59 | <nirv> | arch linux + transmission you're saying? if so, I will start working on it today. mainly for seeding 2000+ torrents on one machine |
| 13:09:18 | <LetMeByte> | arch yes, but I said nothing about transmission lol |
| 13:09:37 | <LetMeByte> | you may use it, if you like it. you need to test what works best for you |
| 13:09:49 | <LetMeByte> | tixati is only good on windows IMO |
| 13:10:32 | <LetMeByte> | I think rtorrent is better for seeding a lot of torrents |
| 13:11:50 | <nirv> | thanks. I found a forum on a private torrent site I trust. will read it. gotta go for now thanks again for your help |
| 13:12:17 | <LetMeByte> | no problem, happy to help |
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