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00:43:03<anarcat>hey https://circuitzerodechet.com/ is shutting down
00:43:12<anarcat>but #archivebot is in emergeny mode?
00:43:38<anarcat>also, the site is kind of messy, with the frontpage being a google map or something
00:46:22<@JAA>anarcat: AB is still available exactly for things like this. Just less 'oh this would be nice to archive' jobs.
00:47:01<anarcat>ack
00:49:04<anarcat>JAA: sorry, what's bitninja?
00:49:41<anarcat>answer: js challenge
00:49:44<anarcat>is there a workaround?
00:49:49<anarcat>or should i just let that site die
00:50:11<@JAA>Well, a 'cybersecurity platform'. The JS challenge is just one of the things they have. They also aggressively send out abuse noticed etc.
00:50:16<@JAA>notices*
00:50:38<anarcat>they're ninjas of bits
00:59:00<@JAA>Maybe grab-site on a residential connection would work. I can't seem to be able to get it from any of the AB pipelines at least, even with the headers from Firefox.
00:59:40<@JAA>Hmm, actually...
01:00:30<anarcat>or some sort of in-browser recorder, but that's a pain in the back
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01:00:47<anarcat>and then i get a warc file i don't know what to do with :p
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02:30:22<tech234a>"Sunsetting Jobs & Developer Story" https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-jobs-developer-story
02:30:49<tech234a>"On March 31, 2022, we will discontinue Stack Overflow Jobs and Developer Story. This includes all job listings, saved searches, applications, messages, recommended job matches, job ads, developer story, saved resumes, and the salary calculator."
02:31:15<tech234a>Oh looks like it's already on the wiki
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15:51:05<AK>Duolingo forums look to be js based, blank screen with it disabled
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16:33:48<@JAA>Posts and comments share the ID space, and the backend throws an HTTP 500 if you try to retrieve a comment like that. Fun.
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16:45:22<@JAA>Can't find a way to get from a comment ID to the corresponding discussion. I found https://forum-api.duolingo.com/comments/load?comment_ids=[55934296] (accepts a comma-separated ID list) but that merely confirms that a comment exists, not where it comes from.
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17:38:31<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+313, /* 2022 */ Add Duolingo forums and Lightform): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48254&oldid=48236
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18:23:10<protondonor>is there a project to archive meta.org?
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18:23:53<@JAA>It's been running through ArchiveBot since October and has archived some 20M pages so far but won't finish in time.
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18:27:33<protondonor>any way to help?
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18:49:04<@JAA>Hmm, looking into it, I'm a bit confused by the IDs. Recent preprints have IDs around 820 million, but recent papers are only around 35 million.
18:51:03<@JAA>Only preprints have those high IDs it seems, all other 'paper' entries (cf. 'secondary type' filter on the right side on https://www.meta.org/search ) are in that 35M range.
18:52:49<@JAA>URLs contain a slug, but it can be replaced with a single dash and still loads. Something then rewrites the window.location, but I haven't found it yet.
18:53:53<protondonor>the 35M slugs for recent papers might be pubmed IDs
18:54:11<protondonor>e.g. https://www.meta.org/papers/gd2-car-t-cell-therapy-for-h3k27m-mutated-diffuse/35130560 the slug seems to match the PMID
18:54:41<@JAA>The slug doesn't appear in the HTML though nor is it retrieved via XHR as far as I can see.
18:55:04<@JAA>I have a feeling that it's basically just the title with non-alphanumeric characters stripped and whitespace replaced with dashes.
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18:56:33<protondonor>oh, i meant IDs not slugs, d'oh
18:56:47<@JAA>Ah
18:57:10<@JAA>Yeah, that seems right.
18:57:27<protondonor>can you share an example preprint?
18:57:35<@JAA>https://www.meta.org/papers/emomis-a-pipeline-for-epitope-based-molecular/820242873
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18:57:49<sallysue>hello!
18:57:58<@JAA>In fact, the paper pages have a PMID at the top when they're proper papers.
18:58:05<sallysue>i have some questions pertaining to the wayback machine, and i was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers
18:58:42<@JAA>sallysue: Depending on whether or not it's related to ArchiveTeam, you might want to go to #internetarchive instead.
18:58:55<sallysue>thank you!
18:58:57<sallysue>that is a good call
18:59:52<protondonor>the ID for preprints doesn't seem to appear on the biorxiv page so I'm guessing it's a meta.org-internal ID
19:00:04<protondonor>it also doesn't seem derived from the DOI
19:00:30<@JAA>Yeah
19:00:43<@JAA>The IDs are sequential across various preprint servers, so obviously not coming from there.
19:01:02<@JAA>MedRxiv example: https://www.meta.org/papers/results-from-edifice-a-french-pilot-study-on/820242862
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19:03:33<protondonor>they do seem to be sequential because you can increment or decrement the ID and get another valid paper
19:06:04<protondonor>this is the earliest consecutive ID in that range I think https://www.meta.org/papers/time-to-sars-cov-2-clearance-among-patients-with/820161000
19:08:07<@JAA>Nope: https://www.meta.org/papers/estimating-the-effect-of-social-distancing/820151001
19:08:18<@JAA>Some IDs don't exist, not sure whether that's retractions or something else.
19:08:43<protondonor>oh huh
19:09:40<protondonor>maybe they get promoted to the other ID type when they get published and thereby get a PMID?
19:10:38<@JAA>Nope, that paper I just linked also has a full publication entry: https://www.meta.org/papers/estimating-the-effect-of-social-distancing/33406533
19:11:10<protondonor>wow, okay, weird
19:11:18<protondonor>some of them have IDs like methodspaper-### https://www.meta.org/papers/establishment-of-kidney-cancer-organoid/methodspaper-3295843
19:11:30<@JAA>Yes, there are a few more of those.
19:12:01<@JAA>proceedingspaper, datafile, methodspaper, software, and clinicalstudyrecord are the ones I found.
19:12:30<protondonor>that sounds right
19:15:32<protondonor>this is another ID range https://www.meta.org/papers/a-time-domain-phase-diagram-of-metastable-states/1500103380
19:15:59<@JAA>Ugh
19:16:23<protondonor>it appears that researchsquare and preprints.org (e.g. https://www.meta.org/papers/information-geometry-of-non-equilibrium-processes/1500065794) use one ID range, and biorxiv and medrxiv use a different one
19:20:23<@JAA>But wait, there's more! https://www.meta.org/papers/a-central-control-circuit-for-encoding-perceived/990368969
19:20:42<protondonor>Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
19:21:04<@JAA>https://www.meta.org/papers/characterization-of-large-scale-functional-brain/1100016042
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19:21:36<protondonor>that one has a malformed DOI, great
19:24:20<@JAA>They have pretty solid sitemaps.
19:26:05<protondonor>which site does?
19:26:10<@JAA>Meta
19:26:51<protondonor>can't find em
19:27:04<@JAA>Listed in https://www.meta.org/robots.txt
19:27:36<protondonor>oooh, very nice
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19:28:57<FableHistorian>Is there a way to search thru the GameTrailers archive?
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19:42:54<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited GameTrailers (+355): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48255&oldid=47881
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19:45:43<protondonor>unrelated, did anyone ever archive Gamevee?
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20:40:02<karpour>Hi everyone!
20:44:37<karpour>I'd like to let you guys know that there's an ongoing project aiming to complete missing Computer Chronicles metadata, identify missing/broken/incomplete episodes and set the stage for eventual proper re-digitizing of all episodes: https://computerchronicles.karpour.net/
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