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01:30:51<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited CuriousCat (+54, Apparently this is an acceptable channel name): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48047&oldid=48045
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03:18:59<pabs>some changes to Fedora discussion forums https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/upcoming-downtime-for-fedora-discussion/
03:19:30<pabs>"I’m going to do most of the work behind the scenes on a temporary staging site, but there’s a lot of shuffling so I’m not sure how long it will take. I plan to put the current site into read-only mode on the 27th or 28th of December, and have it back up and running by January 1st."
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03:50:18<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited CuriousCat (+39): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48048&oldid=48047
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10:37:48<@rewby>arkiver: Congratulations on making me look up how to limit the width of my channel sidebar on my IRC client.
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11:59:56<AK>I was wondering when it would cause a problem for someone
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13:03:34<qw3rty__>Can someone please archive this forum: https://www.onlinekosten.de/forum/ They have been around for more than 20 years but will shut down on Jan 3rd 2022 :(
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13:16:26<@arkiver>rewby: thank AK ;)
13:29:27<h2ibot>Bzc6p edited Kepfeltoltes.eu (+67, archiving the rest of 2020): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48049&oldid=47944
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13:50:32<h2ibot>Bzc6p edited Kepkezelo.com (-694, The end): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48050&oldid=47787
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15:59:55<@rewby>AK: Thanks AK
16:51:48<@JAA>Looks like onlinekosten.de has stupid rate limits. AB got 429'd after 2 dozen requests or so.
17:19:32<@arkiver>JAA: need a project?
17:19:42<@arkiver>i didnt look at the site yet
17:20:14<@arkiver>looks like it's all sequential
17:20:42<@JAA>The forums are standard vBulletin, yeah. The website's a custom thing I'm sure.
17:21:14<@arkiver>well if we cant figure it out due to blocks, let me know
17:21:16<@JAA>Looks like the limit is somewhere between 1 and 1.5 seconds delay between requests.
17:21:45<@arkiver>looks like that forum may also be a nice source for #//
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19:36:10<qw3rty__>JAA: Yes, I tried running it in grab-site with the recommended "--concurrency=1 --delay=500-1500" but got 429s right away. Now I've set it to "--concurrency=1 --delay=2000-2500" and it's chugging along fine. But that is way to slow obviously.
19:37:53<qw3rty__>They have 148.145 threads and 2.506.966 posts.
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22:43:56<@JAA>qw3rty__: Do you know of any other sites owned by Verivox that are also being shut down? It all sounds like onlinekosten isn't the only one.
23:09:49<qw3rty__>Yes, they will also shut down the CHIP forum. (https://forum.chip.de/) But it looks like they will turn it to read only in this case. Announcement: https://forum.chip.de/discussion/1905133/chip-forum-kuenftig-als-read-only-version
23:11:04<@arkiver>we should get it anyway
23:11:06<@arkiver>any others?
23:14:12<@JAA>Username associations will be purged, so we should grab it before then anyway.
23:14:27<@JAA>'Alle Diskussionen/Kommentare bleiben weiterhin online, es wird aber überall ein generischer Username stehen, weil die Useraccounts gelöscht werden. Somit wird es später nicht mehr möglich sein, die Kommentare einem bestimmten User / einer bestimmten Userin zuzuordnen.'
23:14:54<qw3rty__>Any others? Not that I know of.
23:15:12<@JAA>(All discussions/comments will stay online, but they will be under a generic username because the accounts are getting deleted. So it will no longer be possible to link comments to a particular user anymore.)
23:19:36<@JAA>A Reddit thread talks about 'a few others' being shut down besides onlinekosten and CHIP. I've asked for details.
23:22:24<qw3rty__>In 2018 the Cinefacts forum got shut down. Did you, by any chance, archive that as well?
23:22:46<@JAA>No mention of it in my IRC logs, so I doubt it.
23:24:15<@JAA>GIGA and SPON were the big German ones I archived personally. Not sure about others.
23:24:53<qw3rty__>That's a shame. DVD and BluRay publishers used to post interesting inside information on there.
23:27:16<@JAA>The gulli:board is also lost I think. :-/
23:30:20<@JAA>The CHIP forums are Vanilla. AB will *not* enjoy this one...
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23:31:14<@JAA>Looks like CHIP (the website) isn't affected, only the forums, unless I'm missing something.
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23:59:02<kiska>Lets just grab all of it anyway, what harm is that?

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