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01:06:44<pabs>Jörg Schilling passed away: https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2021-October/024523.html
01:24:15<pabs>hmm, not sure where his website is
01:36:47<pabs>ah, some links on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J6rg_Schilling
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06:35:31<@OrIdow6>Sorry about thar Ryz
06:35:33<@OrIdow6>*that
06:38:45<@OrIdow6>So fastswf has a sitemap.xml, but there are exactly 10000 entries for submissions, which of course looks like they're being cut off\
06:39:45<@OrIdow6>There is a random button, though
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08:20:45<@OrIdow6>So assuming that what CDX has is random, there are something like 149k fastswf items
08:21:50<@OrIdow6>The result the "random" button gives you seems to change every 10 seconds (rough measurement) vs. every request, which should let us get about half of them through that method if that's the case
08:22:16<@OrIdow6>I will add to Deathwatch once the 403 goes away
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09:37:05<ArcticCircleSystem>R: I was asked to come here to talk about FastSWF?
09:49:04<@OrIdow6>Yeah
09:49:20<@OrIdow6>I really only have 3 questions
09:49:38<@OrIdow6>Well, 2
09:49:50<@OrIdow6>Is there any info contained in the email that's not already on the site?
09:50:11<@OrIdow6>And how amenable do you think the person who runs it would be to giving us a list of all submissions?
09:50:37<@OrIdow6>And I suppose whether there is anything you know about this site that's not obvious
09:50:48<@OrIdow6>ArcticCircleSystem:
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10:16:09<ArcticCircleSystem>R: Orldow6 I'm not sure how amenable the person running the site would be to doing that, we only used it once and had to signup for it and they just sent an email to anyone. Speaking of which, let me get the email.
10:16:52<ArcticCircleSystem>Dear valued fastSWF user:In early 2021, Adobe discontinued all support for its Flash Player and started to block Flash content from running. In conjunction with that, all popular web browsers (such as Chrome and Firefox) have also ended support for Flash. Unfortunately, this means that fastSWF and its role as an easy, safe, and convenient place to
10:16:52<ArcticCircleSystem>host and share Flash content is no longer relevant given the aforementioned shifts in the technological landscape. We are truly sorry to have to announce this, but fastSWF will be shutting down as of October 31st, 2021 and all hosted content will no longer be accessible.Please feel free to reach out to us by responding to this email if you have any
10:16:53<ArcticCircleSystem>questions, concerns, or need help with anything. We're sad that fastSWF's time is coming to an end but are glad we could provide the service to you for all of these years!~ The fastSWF Team
10:17:00<ArcticCircleSystem>R: whoops
10:17:07<ArcticCircleSystem>Dear valued fastSWF user:
10:17:12<ArcticCircleSystem>In early 2021, Adobe discontinued all support for its Flash Player and started to block Flash content from running. In conjunction with that, all popular web browsers (such as Chrome and Firefox) have also ended support for Flash. Unfortunately, this means that fastSWF and its role as an easy, safe, and convenient place to host and share Flash
10:17:12<ArcticCircleSystem>content is no longer relevant given the aforementioned shifts in the technological landscape. We are truly sorry to have to announce this, but fastSWF will be shutting down as of October 31st, 2021 and all hosted content will no longer be accessible.
10:17:26<ArcticCircleSystem>Please feel free to reach out to us by responding to this email if you have any questions, concerns, or need help with anything. We're sad that fastSWF's time is coming to an end but are glad we could provide the service to you for all of these years!
10:17:28<ArcticCircleSystem>~ The fastSWF Team
10:17:29<ArcticCircleSystem>R: there
10:17:57<ArcticCircleSystem>R: and it was sent by Matt via support@fastswf.com
10:20:35<@OrIdow6>Thank you ArcticCircleSystem; I do not have any further questions for you at this time
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10:26:06<@OrIdow6>flashfire42: Do you know if Flashpoint has done anything about this (fastSWF, www.fastswf.com)?
10:27:19<@OrIdow6>If the answer is "no", I am not asking for Flashpoint to do anything themselves, and in fact I should prefer they not seeing as two separate efforts could slow down the site etc.
10:27:34<@OrIdow6>At least until some things are worked out
10:39:27<kiska>I thought #flashbang would have captured it?
10:41:22<@OrIdow6>Nothing in the viewer
10:41:27<@OrIdow6>AB
10:42:11<@OrIdow6>I have forgotten nearly everything about that project; was that a domains-grab variant?
10:42:29<@OrIdow6>Either way, the site seems to require some discovery work, and I don't remember that happening
10:54:26<kiska>I believe it was, I remember almost every project that my ex42 touched
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11:04:06<gazorpazorp>fastSWF reminded me of http://swfchan.com. It has a lot of swf files, indexed in pages (a few thousand pages at least). IA has the page archived, but not the individual SWF files. How can I go about archiving the site? Talk to archivebot?
11:04:19<gazorpazorp>A lot of the files are old memes and such
11:04:32<IDK>orldow6: could it be a project since there is a 146K items
11:06:57<gazorpazorp>Archived flashes: 221700, 4866 pages (not all pages have content)
11:10:49<@OrIdow6>gazorpazorp: Archivebot is one option, yes
11:10:55<@OrIdow6>Is this something that is going down?
11:11:02<@OrIdow6>IDK: Possibly, not guaranteed
11:11:26<IDK>if we have enough time to create the script
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11:16:24<@OrIdow6>Not if it can be avoided
11:18:06<@OrIdow6>I am still hoping it will work with ArchiveBot
11:26:27<gazorpazorp>OrIdow6: It's not going down, but I have used it the past year 3 times to download a swf that was nowhere to be found elsewhere (one was from an old meme YouTube video that was deleted).
11:27:09<gazorpazorp>Not super important content, but still part of the internet culture
11:37:15<@OrIdow6>I see
11:38:09<@OrIdow6>Barring download limits etc. I think this site would work with ArchiveBot
11:39:12<gazorpazorp>OrIdow6: Sadly it says: Before watching/downloading a flash file from swfchan you might have to prove you are human by entering some text into a text field that's displayed in a image. This is to prevent the site to be leeched to death by bots. After you've entered the text you will get between 5-10 "credits" which are used to get flashes. When you have no credits you will have to enter a new captcha code.
11:39:35<gazorpazorp>I couldn't find a data dump either :(
11:41:04<@OrIdow6>That would be an impediment, yes
11:42:10<Dark_Hunter>could some tell me the min requirements for a ArchiveTeam Warrior
11:42:10<Dark_Hunter> instance
11:42:48<@OrIdow6>The thing is, for things like that, people need time to write scripts
11:42:59<@OrIdow6>This is still talking to gazorpazorp, not to Dark_Hunter
11:43:23<Dark_Hunter>ok
11:43:48<@OrIdow6>And that the site isn't shutting down sort of means it's a low priority
11:44:17<gazorpazorp>Agreed (captcha + not shutting down + low quality content)
11:44:48<gazorpazorp>I'll ask the owner if there's a way to dl everything and if they say no, I'll just hope their site stays up
11:45:32<@OrIdow6>Do you think it is at risk of shutting down without warning?
11:52:45<gazorpazorp>Not more than usual, the owner seems to care about the site and it's been up since 2008.
11:54:07<gazorpazorp>I made a post on their forum, offering even to pay some Monero if they provide me with a data dump or torrent or ability to crawl without captcha
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12:16:14<@OrIdow6>Sounds good enough for now, I think
12:16:51<@OrIdow6>To at least try to establish contact
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12:39:56<@JAA>OrIdow6: Editing sections of Deathwatch (which don't contain the links that trigger some detection bullshit) seems to work.
12:47:13<h2ibot>FMecha edited 4chan (+149, /* warosu.org */ typo'd + reasoning): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=47266&oldid=47265
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13:32:11<@OrIdow6>Thank you JAA
13:34:23<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Deathwatch (-51, /* 2021 */ Add FastSWF; remove NicoNico Blomaga…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=47267&oldid=47264
13:36:24<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Deathwatch (+149, /* 2021 */ Add Niconico Blomaga): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=47268&oldid=47267
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13:42:19<gazorpazorp>About swfchan - The owner replied at http://boards.swfchan.net/24078/#87485 I understand what you mean but at the time I prefer to not give out copies of the site. I don't plan to shut it down and if I did I would try to at least send static files to archive.org, they contacted me a couple of years ago.
13:42:19<gazorpazorp>I suspect some data hoarders collaborated to back up swfchan's flashes at the end of last year, so if I get hit by a bus tomorrow those files should hopefully surface. I don't know for sure but there was a steep increase in traffic for many days, slowing the site a lot, which is why I suspect there was some kind of archiving effort of the archive before the deadline Adobe had set.
13:42:19<gazorpazorp>I've been thinking about making a torrent someday (using the most popular filenames and a meaningful folder structure), but that would probably be done after all the flashes from newgrounds.com have been added to the site. I'm putting that off into the future since there are many, many thousands of swf files pending and few people that browse here will want to watch them. Once the site's visitor count is truly abysmal and the
13:42:24<gazorpazorp>creation of new flashes have all but dried up, that's when it would be optimal to make a torrent. Could throw in some metadata as well so it's a good idea to wait a while so people can tag as much as possible.
13:43:25<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited ArchiveBot/Votes in Switzerland/2018-06-10/list (+392): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=47269&oldid=37605
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13:47:26<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Chromebot (+63, Added mention of WBM exclusion to lede): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=47270&oldid=46752
13:52:27<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Remix 3D (+144, On Chromebot's WBM removal): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=47271&oldid=42960
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20:22:20<Dark_Hunter>finally my warrior back online
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23:48:31<@JAA>Apparently the Cracked.com forums vanished sometime last year (in July or August).
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