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00:05:26<purplebot>Archiveteam:IRC edited by JustAnotherArchivist (+97, /* Creating a channel */ Add SYNC, …) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=46448&oldid=46035
00:06:26<purplebot>Discourse edited by Themadprogramer (+244, /* Active Discourses */) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=46449&oldid=46358
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01:47:55<atphoenix>General rule: more copies is better, improved redundancy increases resiliency in the face of all sorts of threats: technical, environmental, legal, political, etc.
01:50:50<atphoenix>useretail_, some links I posted here on 3/22, related to the Playstation shutdowns: https://www.thegamer.com/ps3-vita-psp-stores-permanently-closed/ and https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1373996180653375490 "PS3, PS Vita and PSP stores will be closed permanently in July"
01:52:07<atphoenix>typically I've observed that projects don't really pick up major steam until pretty close to the drop-dead date. How early they pick up steam also depends on the size of project, and how complicated it is, and the level of interest.
01:58:18<OrIdow6>Is this another thing where you have to make an account and "buy" them, even if they're free, to download them?
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02:02:44<@hook54321>https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/113838
02:04:13<OrIdow6>"everything points towards a compromise of the git.php.net server... we have decided that maintaining our own git infrastructure is an unnecessary security risk, and that we will discontinue the git.php.net server. Instead, the repositories on GitHub, which were previously only mirrors, will become canonical"
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02:04:21<OrIdow6>From the above
02:06:22<OrIdow6>(They're formatting it in 80 columns in 2021, which meant I had to edit when copying and pasting, but you have to think of those vt100 users)
02:06:54<OrIdow6>(Or whatever the number is)
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02:41:28<@JAA>I've cloned and bundled all the repos on their server except web/php-distributions.git which just seems to hang, possibly due to its size. I'll let it run for a while, maybe it'll start working.
02:41:55<@JAA>Although of course all their repos are fully mirrored on GitHub anyway as mentioned there.
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03:02:55<@JAA>Still no progress. Grabbing that repo from GitHub instead. The commit ID proves that it's the same repo and history anyway.
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03:14:41<@JAA>16.4 GB bundle, fun.
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03:38:57<OrIdow6>Thanks
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06:26:39<OrIdow6>arkiver: It seems that nothing from this item https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_smackjeeves_20201229141704_022d21d7 shows up in the Wayback Machine (whereas some did earlier). I see these items had their ownership changed on the 23rd from Eggplant's account to "archiveteam"; is this expected/temporary?
06:27:03<OrIdow6>Their inaccessibility due to the account change, that is
06:30:36<OrIdow6>Or for some other reason
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08:39:22<doug89>Hi. I'm going through and deleting some old backups of mine and found digital copies of the Australian PC magazine Atomic. I've got .djvu files of issues 1-50, which originally came on a CD attached to the hundredth issue I think.. The internet archive only has 13-35. Is that something that this community deals with, and if not, any idea who might
08:39:22<doug89>want them?
08:41:08<doug89>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_(magazine)
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09:03:16<Sylirana>doug89, Not sure about AT and IA, but I'd be interested in them (and could upload them to IA later if they're interested in them as well). Do you have a link or somewhere you can upload them to?
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09:19:53<doug89>Is it okay to drop mega links here?
09:24:38<Sylirana>Not sure, up to OPs. But I *think* a PM should be fine.
09:34:50<Sylirana>Got them, thanks!
09:34:55<@dxrt>Yeah feel free to drop the link here
09:35:19<Sylirana>arkiver, would this be something for IA?
09:38:47<doug89>Atomic Magazine 1 - 50. https://mega.nz/folder/SBN3SQQB#G7QNLA135bzj0iOgwlC-iA
09:40:02<Sylirana>https://transfer.notkiska.pw/O7tCS/contents.txt
09:40:18<Sylirana>(Contents of the zip files.)
09:41:00<doug89>Those are the contents of the two CDs that were attached to the hundredth issue. The issues themselves are .djvu files, but each CD also had some .html summaries and navigation pages, and some explanations about the archives.
09:47:10<OrIdow6>I'm now getting a copy as well
09:47:42<OrIdow6>If someone uploads a copy to the IA, say so here
09:47:51<OrIdow6>And remember good metadata
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13:36:00<driib>Hi, just saw on HN that Unsplash got acquired by Getty: https://unsplash.com/blog/unsplash-getty/ Does it make sense to create a project to save all (still) freely licensed images in case Getty has a change of heart soon?
13:46:02<@Kaz>unsplash sounds tasty
13:46:31<@Kaz>I wonder how much of it has a license that allows republishing like that though - I presume we'd have to do similar to what we did to flickr
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14:03:03<zwol>Hi, I'd like to suggest that archiving of fanfiction.net should be bumped up the priority list a bit.
14:03:20<@Kaz>what's the isutation zwol
14:03:23<@Kaz>situation*
14:03:43<zwol>According to this tumblr thread [https://mommacomms.tumblr.com/post/646772288587513856/] the site has been bought out by an outfit called FictionPress and they are "migrating ffn to the same server" and "lots of technical stuff is going haywire"
14:04:01<@Kaz>got an estimated size etc?
14:04:16<@Kaz>If it's not too big it may be able to go through archivebot, but that'll be slow
14:04:28<zwol>one moment
14:04:46<zwol>it's all text, but there's a lot of it
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14:06:24<@arkiver>OrIdow6: checking on that item
14:07:01<@arkiver>Sylirana: may be nice, feel free to upload
14:07:26<zwol>... unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any obvious way to get # of valid URLs starting from the top of the website. The site was scraped in 2012 and 2015 and both of those look to be about a terabyte.
14:07:33<zwol>@Kaz ^^
14:08:40<@arkiver>zwol: is this related https://twitter.com/FictionPress/status/1350135834918326273
14:08:55<Sylirana>Oh, while you're here, could you have a look at #plexicode as well?
14:09:27<zwol>arkiver: yes, that's probably what they were talking about on tumblr
14:10:27<zwol>basically the concern from the tumblr thread seems to be that the new owner is more interested in their other property (fictionpress.com) and might cut off or paywall access to the old ffn content with little notice.
14:11:04<zwol>- not unlike what we've seen happen with other huge, aging sites in the past
14:11:52<@arkiver>Sylirana: yes
14:13:02<zwol>arkiver: looking through the notes, various people are also reporting getting locked out of their accounts and then not getting any response from the support desk for weeks, which I personally don't like the sound of at all
14:17:53<Sylirana>Sorry, yes to having a look or yes to uploading?
14:18:52<driib>Re license of unsplash: https://unsplash.com/license Seems like they forbid creating a replica of the site but I think one could argue that if it is kept private till unsplash is shut down, the archive will no longer be a competing service when the original is no longer operational
14:21:02<tzt>unsplash images posted before 5 June 2017 are CC0
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14:33:14<hooway>screamer.wiki needs to be archived, i have found no archives yet. it's not going to die, just backup just in case.
14:46:19<@EggplantN>hooway any link to shutdown notice?
14:49:12<hooway>it's not going to shutdown
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15:30:43<@JAA>hooway: #wikiteam
15:34:29<@arkiver>Sylirana: yes to upload (though im not speaking for IA here)
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16:22:42<SketchTheCow>JAA: The FOS machine has been doing a bit of a wild-goose-chase project, moving 3.6 million items into about 1,200.
16:23:28<SketchTheCow>And so it's pulling down 100,000 items and then compressing them into items, uploading, etc. That's why it nearly fills. I don't automatically remove the in-process files in case something goes wrong. Then I remove them in bulk.
16:23:37<SketchTheCow>This is all to say this is likely to right itself within... oh, a week
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16:29:39<atphoenix>if doug89 comes back it'd be nice to ask them to make .aaruf (AARU-DPS) image copies of the original Atomic CDs. Aaru is a powerful media preservation tool. (https://github.com/aaru-dps/Aaru )
16:41:14<SketchTheCow>https://archive.org/details/satnogs?and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22audio%22 (You can see it's down to about 760,000 items)
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17:17:36<@JAA>SketchTheCow: Ah, I see. Good to know, thanks.
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18:29:00<@HCross>arkiver: are we going to do unsplash
18:49:39<atphoenix>splishsplash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KmKkV3ddAo
18:51:26<purplebot>Discourse edited by Themadprogramer (+84, /* Active Discourses */) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=46450&oldid=46449
18:53:25<tech234a>“Microsoft will be moving away from UserVoice sites on a product-by-product basis throughout the 2021 calendar year. We will leverage 1st party solutions for customer feedback.” https://outlook.uservoice.com/forums/293349
18:57:39<atphoenix>not surprised. Struck me as unusual that third party solution was used by MS for forums. Another product: https://configurationmanager.uservoice.com/forums/300492-ideas
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18:58:50<Zunaka>Hey, is anyone here from Archiveteam? I need to ask you guys something important?
18:58:54<@Kaz>yes
19:00:10<Zunaka>I'm wondering if you have any archives of filefront? I heard there's a massive archive of it from 2015-2016, I'm looking for something that was hopefully still up back then
19:02:29<tech234a>Also https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/
19:03:28<tech234a>Some more: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/blogs/o365guy/submit-product-feedback-or-feature-requests-to-microsofts-virtual-suggestion-boxes
19:03:33<@Kaz>tech234a: ffs
19:03:35<@Kaz>i like that
19:04:15<tech234a>Thanks
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19:05:22<atphoenix>this is a microsoft-devoice effort
19:05:50<tech234a>https://remotedesktop.uservoice.com/forums/266795-remote-desktop-services
19:07:37<tech234a>Most of these are already gone except for Remote Desktop: https://www.windowscentral.com/uservoice
19:08:10<@Kaz>i literally had to use the teams uservoice yesterday
19:08:18<@Kaz>and they've butchered some magic link signin shit to it
19:17:22<@arkiver>HCross: maybe
19:18:39<tech234a>Looks like https://acompli.helpshift.com/ has already been taken down (the Outlook iOS app was updated today to transition away from it). It had been used for support articles since before Microsoft acquired the Acompli (now Outlook) app.
19:19:07<tech234a>GroupMe transitioned away from ZenDesk last September btw.
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19:23:40<@JAA>Zunaka: FileFront == GameFront? That's at https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_gamefront and in the Wayback Machine.
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21:05:40<s-crypt>Can anyone run a socialscrape job in #archivebot ? Or is it the same permissions as the main bot
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21:13:18<atphoenix>s-crypt, currently socialbot is AWOL, and thus no one can send snscrape commands to it
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