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01:25:18<atphoenix>mgrandi, FYI, yesterday Ryz mentioned the Jim Sterling situation with a citation in YTA, and ivan chose to re-run it yesterday. So you probably only *need* to focus any posted today. But as always, multiple copies in different locations is still a good idea.
01:31:38<mgrandi>Ah ok
01:31:47<mgrandi>I'll keep it around for a bit
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01:36:00<mgrandi>Youtube dl is also easy to run and requires no time or custom code on my part :)
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15:30:25<@Kaz>15:27:46 -- | fionera (~fionera@hackint/staff/Fionera): The CTDO Hackint Node will be offline after 15:45 UTC to migrate the Host. Please use irc.hackint.eu
15:30:27<@Kaz> | as your connect Address
15:30:29<@Kaz>see y'all soon
15:30:41<fionera>hehe
15:30:54<@Kaz>i should reconnect now
15:30:58<@Kaz>but I'll wait
15:31:03<fionera>I migrate the box from a plain libvirt to proxmox
15:31:09<fionera>also its ubuntu 18.04
15:31:16<fionera>and everything is on 4TB hdds
15:31:19<fionera>OLD!
15:40:25<@Kaz>oof
15:40:27<@Kaz>nasty
15:46:38<@EggplantN>See you all soon
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16:01:35<@EggplantN>Oh lol that it
16:01:57<rewby>Looks like it
16:03:17<@Kaz>time to work out which channels i didn't make it back into
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16:11:29<@EggplantN>Ah thelounge does that for me on join Kaz
16:11:33<AK>^^
16:11:41<AK>For once I didn't get disconnected this time
16:11:55<AK>(Except my 4am disconnect where it looks like my server lost internet for a few minutes)
16:20:26<@Kaz>well yes mine does too, but it's more about the channels that have invite restrictions on and I haven't got exceptions for
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17:37:52<@EggplantN>Kaz..... again lounge does that for me
17:38:00<@EggplantN>I have it msg ChanServ on join
17:38:05<@EggplantN>Then join for me
17:42:10<@Kaz>yeah that's all well and good
17:42:21<@Kaz>but if the channels are configured properly that's not required at all
17:42:46<@Kaz>I feed weechat a list of channel names, i'm authed via SASL already, so I can just get in (minus one channel that we don't use)
17:43:38<@Kaz>I don't want some rube goldberg machine of 'throw a load of commands at chanserv and hope it replies in time'
17:48:19<spirit>thats a whoopie goldberg machine
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17:53:41<fionera>re :)
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18:34:43<@EggplantN>Hey Harzilein
18:48:37<Harzilein>hi
18:48:39<Harzilein>:)
18:49:00<Harzilein>is this an appropriate place to discuss wget-lua?
18:50:08<@JAA>It depends. For development, there's #archiveteam-dev. Anything else is probably fine here (unless it's project-specific).
18:51:34<Harzilein>i'll just hang out there too
18:52:08<@JAA>Side-note, we don't use wget-lua anymore, it's wget-at now.
18:53:36<Harzilein>maybe it slightly _is_ about projects. i understand that tiny.cc redirects are collected by 301works, but as they are published "locked" on archive.org i'm unsure if the urls i care about are part of their collection.
18:55:09<@JAA>Right. This whole uncertainty around 301works is why #urlteam exists (which doesn't use wget at all).
18:55:55<Harzilein>and looking at archiving just those for myself, i was wondering about extensions to pre-wget2 wget.
18:57:31<Harzilein>ah, i seem to have missed that change as the wget-lua repository url still works.
18:57:37<@JAA>You can probably use plain wget to archive them, although there is the still-unresolved angle bracket issue with upstream wget's WARCs.
19:00:14<@JAA>Or if you simply want a short URL -> long URL mapping, I'd probably do that with a tiny Python script using requests.
19:00:45<@JAA>Alternatively, we could archive them with ArchiveBot to get it all into the WBM, including the pages at the long URLs.
19:01:19<Harzilein>oh, currently with the site active, i'm indeed fine with using wget --max-redirects 0 and c&p
19:04:13<Harzilein>and warc archival is of course nice to have (though i currently wouldn't know how/where to submit that)
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20:14:32<eyo>hi and ping to arkiver
20:14:47<@arkiver>hi
20:14:49<@arkiver>which site?
20:14:58<@arkiver>and why
20:15:38<eyo>every publicy available post of (public) telegram channels, for example: https://t.me/s/ATTILAHILDMANN/49107
20:15:43<eyo>is this okay, arkiver?
20:16:19<@arkiver>huh telegram works in the browser without account
20:16:23<eyo>yup
20:16:25<@arkiver>eyo: well nice idea actually
20:16:29<eyo>thanks
20:16:37<eyo>yea I'm working on scraping on it
20:16:46<eyo>got a list of ~50 nazis accounts so far
20:17:04<@arkiver>JAA: is this something for AB?
20:17:12<atphoenix>is this a new Telegram capability?
20:17:18<eyo>no its long time known i guess
20:17:23<OrIdow6^2>I think this trick has been used in AB for a while
20:17:26<eyo>thanks for asking JAA, arkiver
20:17:27<@arkiver>eyo: btw stick around please, can take hours before someone replies
20:17:36<eyo>thats okay, will stick around
20:17:58<OrIdow6^2>https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/domain/t.me
20:18:13<@arkiver>OrIdow6^2: does it handle pagination?
20:18:21<eyo>uh sweet
20:18:45<@JAA>Sooo
20:18:56<@JAA>Yes, it works, kind of.
20:18:59<@arkiver>haha
20:19:03<eyo>nice
20:19:06<@JAA>Not everything is supported in the web interface.
20:19:07<@arkiver>is that identifier sequential
20:19:12<@arkiver>well 'the number'
20:19:18<@arkiver>https://t.me/ATTILAHILDMANN/28090
20:19:19<@JAA>Long videos don't for example, IIRC.
20:19:20<eyo>yea you may count downwards
20:19:22<@arkiver>sequential per user/channel?
20:19:24<@JAA>Yes, its sequential per profile.
20:19:33<@JAA>Mostly, anyway.
20:19:33<@arkiver>this is nice
20:19:36<eyo>yup
20:20:10<@arkiver>if we get tens of thousands of accounts it may be work it to get a project up for public groups
20:20:15<eyo>:)
20:20:20<eyo>that would great
20:20:34<@JAA>Further, as you probably noticed, each page shows 20 posts around the ID you supply.
20:20:38<@arkiver>eyo: well we wouldn't do it for a few accounts
20:20:44<@arkiver>yeah
20:20:47<eyo>arkiver: yea thats great
20:20:57<@JAA>The URLs for images and videos change on every load, but dedupe should handle that in wget-at.
20:21:53<eyo>one could implement following t.me-links
20:22:02<eyo>because they refernce each other
20:22:06<eyo>to build up a "hitlist"
20:22:18<atphoenix>I hate endless scroll. This has endless scroll. I'd love to know of a browser or browser extension that can break endless scroll and give me proper pagination.
20:22:22<@arkiver>yeah just saw the infoplatz one
20:22:31<@JAA>atphoenix: Disable JS and it works.
20:23:10<@arkiver>atphoenix: no endless scroll, POST requests with an after or before param
20:23:22<@JAA>The 'Loading' text is a simple link to retrieve the next/prev page.
20:23:28<@arkiver>works without POST as well
20:24:37<spirit>atphoenix: are you talking about the horrible archive.org design?
20:24:39<@JAA>I never looked at what scrolling does, but I assume it uses a different data encapsulation. Not sure how complicated it'd be to make that work in the WBM.
20:25:02<@JAA>Yeah, that, IA is horrible for browsing without JS.
20:25:11<eyo>get you JAA, would love to help
20:25:19<spirit>dunno, i have js enabled
20:25:50<@JAA>It also hijacks keyboard shortcuts and whatnot. Not a fan of the IA web frontend at all.
20:25:55<@arkiver>anyone have ideas for a channel? :)
20:26:13<eyo>haha
20:26:16<eyo>thinking on it
20:26:29<eyo>telolgram
20:26:31<eyo>or so
20:27:59<atphoenix>thanks, turning off JS helps on t.me. It's more 'normal'.
20:28:44<atphoenix>gtelegrammaphone
20:29:07<ThreeHeadedMonkey>telegone?
20:29:09<eyo>yes
20:29:26<eyo>arkiver: what you think of ThreeHeadedMonkey's idea
20:29:27<@arkiver>we had imgone already but can do telegone
20:29:27<atphoenix>telegrammaphonehome / tellallgram
20:30:23<atphoenix>telegram -> listengram
20:31:22<@JAA>teragram(me)
20:31:34<atphoenix>gramcracker (grahamcracker) (but no actual cracking of course)
20:32:10<@arkiver>yeah lets not put crack in the name
20:32:17<eyo>well my working title for the script was "nazisreden" which is nazistalking in german
20:32:24<@arkiver>telegone would make sense if its going away
20:32:36<eyo>dont think so arkiver
20:32:43<@arkiver>eyo: we'd be focused on everything, not just that stuff
20:32:47<eyo>ah yea
20:33:10<atphoenix>telepath
20:33:14<eyo>uh
20:33:38<@arkiver>allthegrams
20:33:40<@arkiver>JAA: ^ ?
20:33:47<atphoenix>telepathIA , singing telegram
20:34:14eyo is digging allthegrams
20:34:15<@JAA>Hmm, confusion potential with Instagram?
20:34:21<@arkiver>yeah...
20:34:25<@JAA>Posts there are sometimes called 'grams'.
20:34:40@arkiver is not on instagram
20:34:44<@Kaz>telegrabber
20:34:55<@Kaz>(-er), optional
20:35:02<@arkiver>that is nice
20:35:03<atphoenix>telegrammar
20:35:05<@arkiver>telegrab ?
20:35:07<eyo>telegrab
20:35:09<spirit>teletobe
20:35:11<@Kaz>telegrab.
20:35:13<@JAA>^
20:35:16<@arkiver>#telegrab
20:35:20<spirit>best one
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20:42:56<@kiska>Well invite me when chan has been established
20:44:18<@arkiver>kiska: its there
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