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| 17:47:36 | <eytirth> | I have two wikis to archive, I also have their dumps |
| 17:49:15 | <eytirth> | This is the dump of the Finished Content Wiki @ Taerel.com/wiki/: https://mega.nz/file/S1UzkbTY#M3gzpZ2Kf4J6s4Pfo_V6CaTAfCjQQw98B-1usj3XRGk |
| 17:49:47 | <eytirth> | THis is the dump of the Unfinished content wiki @ Taerel.com/wiki2/ : https://mega.nz/file/D0MFUbSK#ONFcCQYdBZcxO-fRe97-mCHsXfsuW_gTFV2crsu2LmE |
| 17:56:36 | <that_lurker> | Both seem to have been archived, Though im not 100% sure about the wiki2 so i ran a grab just in case https://archive.org/search?query=originalurl%3A%28%2Ataerel.com%2A%29 |
| 17:59:41 | <eytirth> | I ask, as I did an update that changes the wiki quite a bit |
| 17:59:55 | <eytirth> | So, the finished wiki probly needs an up to date archive |
| 18:00:56 | <that_lurker> | ahh. I grabbed the wiki2 a second ago https://archive.org/details/wiki-taerel.com_wiki2-20231126 |
| 18:01:14 | <yzqzss> | https://archive.org/details/wiki-taerel.com_wiki-20231127 |
| 18:01:15 | <yzqzss> | https://archive.org/details/wiki-taerel.com_wiki2-20231127 |
| 18:01:16 | <yzqzss> | done |
| 18:01:21 | <eytirth> | Ty |
| 18:01:36 | <eytirth> | How did you do that so fast? |
| 18:01:53 | <that_lurker> | https://github.com/saveweb/wikiteam3 |
| 18:02:06 | <eytirth> | Woah |
| 18:02:15 | <eytirth> | It only took seconds |
| 18:03:11 | <eytirth> | How does it get the name "Wiki - Taerel Wiki"? |
| 18:03:35 | <that_lurker> | yzqzss: Damn you where slightly faster than me. I deleted my grab so there will not be a dube. |
| 18:04:06 | <yzqzss> | (I'm in +8 time zone, so it's 20231127, maybe I should change the date suffix of wikiteam3 and DW-dumper to UTC) |
| 18:05:20 | <that_lurker> | eytirth: Most likely from the api |
| 18:05:27 | <eytirth> | Whyu is the new Taerel wiki aricve not showing? |
| 18:05:37 | <yzqzss> | eytirth: haha |
| 18:05:49 | <eytirth> | Why? |
| 18:06:08 | <eytirth> | The new Taerel Wiki archive does not seem to be showing |
| 18:06:28 | <that_lurker> | eytirth: If you opened my link then i deleted it. Use the one yzqzss posted instead |
| 18:06:51 | <eytirth> | https://archive.org/search?query=taerel&sort=-publicdate |
| 18:07:33 | <eytirth> | I think you deleted the wrong one - there are two "Taerel workshop ones" but no new "Taerel" wiki (Taerel.com/wiki/) |
| 18:08:24 | <that_lurker> | it will take a second for it to be deleted |
| 18:08:43 | <eytirth> | https://archive.org/details/wiki-taerel.com_wiki-20231127 (this one is still there, but not showing up) |
| 18:08:56 | <eytirth> | I mean showing uiip in the search link |
| 18:09:04 | <eytirth> | *not showing up in the search link |
| 18:09:38 | <that_lurker> | gotta wait. "this item is currently being modified/updated by the task: book_op" |
| 18:10:13 | <yzqzss> | Search indexex refresh takes several minutes. |
| 18:11:02 | <yzqzss> | pls wait :) |
| 18:11:07 | <eytirth> | What is the biggest wiki you have archived? |
| 18:11:53 | <@JAA> | yzqzss: UTC++ :-) |
| 18:13:06 | <eytirth> | I am in UTC 0 |
| 18:16:50 | <@JAA> | One time zone to rule them all. |
| 18:19:21 | <that_lurker> | eytirth: Biggest will most likely be https://tardis.fandom.com/ |
| 18:19:50 | <yzqzss> | <eytirth> "What is the biggest wiki you..." <- https://archive.org/details/wiki-hkbus.fandom.com-20230822 about 383GB |
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| 18:32:25 | <Eytirirth> | Yes, I am back, timed out, I am a bit annoyed at myself for archiving my wiki three times in a year |
| 18:32:33 | | Eytirirth is now known as eytirth |
| 18:35:02 | <yzqzss> | 3 times free backup service, lol |
| 18:35:38 | <pokechu22> | Archiving a small wiki several times in a year is fine - saving one with gigabytes of data several times when there haven't been changes is the problem :) |
| 18:36:38 | <eytirth> | The main changes of 2023 was links added (by hand), and at some point, large amounts of images (for m,y Taerel wiki) |
| 18:37:25 | <eytirth> | Pretty much I made images for each place I think at some point and added links to pages to link them together |
| 18:37:37 | <eytirth> | pokechu22 are you upset at me? |
| 18:37:47 | <pokechu22> | No, it's totally fine |
| 18:38:00 | <eytirth> | Have I done something wrong> |
| 18:38:07 | <pokechu22> | Nope |
| 18:38:48 | <eytirth> | I do only ask for archiving once I do a major update. This time's major update was images for each place and hand done page linking |
| 18:39:10 | <pokechu22> | And if you need it archived again, let us know again :) |
| 18:39:24 | <eytirth> | Ty, maybe next year or so |
| 18:39:34 | <eytirth> | Am I allowed to ask for old arhcives to be deleted? |
| 18:40:13 | <pokechu22> | Generally we don't delete older stuff just to save space |
| 18:40:34 | <yzqzss> | Your wiki only has 431 images/media, which is very small for us. |
| 18:40:40 | <eytirth> | Oh |
| 18:41:03 | <eytirth> | IDR when I added all the images |
| 18:41:42 | <pokechu22> | There are some wikis with tens of thousands of images that take up over a hundred gigabytes - those are the kinds of wikis we tend to archive less frequently |
| 18:42:05 | <eytirth> | Why would a wiki need 10k+ images? |
| 18:42:44 | <pokechu22> | https://minecraft.wiki/w/Special:MediaStatistics |
| 18:43:13 | <eytirth> | Woah, a lot of files (for a block game wiki_ |
| 18:43:18 | <pokechu22> | Several images for each block, item, entity, and everything else in the game, and lots of screenshots of each version |
| 18:43:55 | <eytirth> | How do I get just the page xml? |
| 18:44:22 | <pokechu22> | With wikiteam tools, don't include --images (only include --xml --xmlrevisions) |
| 18:44:22 | <yzqzss> | you need to install zstd |
| 18:44:39 | <eytirth> | Why is the dump so big? |
| 18:44:45 | <yzqzss> | https://github.com/facebook/zstd/ |
| 18:44:52 | <eytirth> | My wiki can not be 156 mb just for text |
| 18:45:05 | <pokechu22> | It's 3.4 MB for just text |
| 18:45:09 | <pokechu22> | 155.6M is images |
| 18:46:21 | <eytirth> | Interisng |
| 18:47:22 | <eytirth> | Could I pleease ask for: https://archive.org/details/wiki-taerelcom_wiki_202306 and https://archive.org/details/wiki-taerelcom_wiki-20230609 top be deleted? |
| 18:47:39 | <eytirth> | As those do seem to have very few changes and would be usless |
| 18:54:12 | <yzqzss> | deleting https://archive.org/details/wiki-taerelcom_wiki-20230609 |
| 18:56:21 | <eytirth> | yzqzss thank you, how can I repay you>? |
| 18:56:26 | <yzqzss> | <pokechu22> "It's 3.4 MB for just text" <- 3.4MB (compressed size), 15.2MB (uncompressed size) :) |
| 18:56:36 | <eytirth> | Is there some wikis you wnat me to find to arhive? |
| 18:57:12 | <eytirth> | Can you archive an entire farm? I ask, as I know a wiki family and a wiki farm that idk if they are arhive yet |
| 19:00:33 | <yzqzss> | Yeap, we are archivists and we would all be excited if you could send some wiki links here :) |
| 19:01:08 | <yzqzss> | eytirth: we could |
| 19:04:59 | <eytirth> | I found https://amazingwikis.com/ but cannot find the other one |
| 19:05:31 | <Exorcism> | eytirth: I've already dumped everything lblblblblb |
| 19:05:53 | <eytirth> | Exorcism from amaziung wikis? |
| 19:06:34 | <Exorcism> | yep |
| 19:07:19 | <eytirth> | https://indiewikifederation.org/ noticed this site today but I do not think they host wikis |
| 19:07:38 | <eytirth> | But they may mention wikis that have not been archived yet |
| 19:07:58 | <eytirth> | Found it: https://meta.hypoverse.org/wiki/Main_Page is the other wiki family |
| 19:08:22 | <Exorcism> | eytirth: already dumped too c: |
| 19:09:00 | <eytirth> | Also I think https://telepedia.net/ and https://wiki.gg/ as well |
| 19:09:23 | <eytirth> | WikiTide, Wiki.gg and WikiForge are new, so IDK how long they will last. Wiki farms do tend to die |
| 19:10:18 | <eytirth> | I rember MWZip's death, I had to move my wiki out as it died under me |
| 19:11:13 | <Exorcism> | eytirth: for wiki.gg, I receive new wiki every day (on discord), so they are dumped, and telepedia, I look at it every so often |
| 19:12:19 | <Exorcism> | eytirth: Wikitide and Wikiforge have been archived with the bot "Wikibot", but I don't know if there was a new wiki |
| 19:12:33 | <eytirth> | Og, I did not know that |
| 19:12:46 | <yzqzss> | Exorcism++ |
| 19:12:47 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'Exorcism' now has 3 karma! |
| 19:13:00 | <eytirth> | I have noted about wiki farms seem to die quite a bit |
| 19:13:10 | <Exorcism> | :3 |
| 19:13:28 | <eytirth> | I guess they get too big for the amount of money/servers they have and then decide to shut down |
| 19:14:34 | <eytirth> | Why do you think many wiki farms die? (and therefore need archiving asap) |
| 19:17:51 | <Exorcism> | it's very badly worded but yeah xd |
| 19:19:39 | <Exorcism> | it's better, thanks bard LMAO |
| 19:19:40 | | Exorcism uploaded an image: (16KiB) < https://matrix.hackint.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/mozilla.org/683533bce7bb658aedfc0fda359980538d16b3601728856010463903744/image.png > |
| 19:24:06 | <Exorcism> | @yzqzss:matrix.org Bella sara wiki have just moved to wiki.gg (already dumped), would it be possible for you to take care of the fandom (if i don't bother you of course blblblb)? https://thebellasara.fandom.com/wiki/The_Bella_Sara_Wiki |
| 19:25:02 | <eytirth> | How often do you dump large wikis suchas the RuneScape and Minecrfat wikis? |
| 19:26:47 | <yzqzss> | Exorcism: sure! |
| 19:29:50 | <Exorcism> | thanks! c: |
| 19:29:55 | <eytirth> | Do you dump larger wikis yearly or more? |
| 19:33:25 | <eytirth> | Please do highlight me whjen you reply to me |
| 19:54:03 | <DogsRNice> | the cookie clicker wiki left fandom https://cookieclicker.wiki.gg/wiki/Cookie_Clicker_Wiki |
| 19:54:49 | <that_lurker> | !check cookieclicker.wiki.gg/ |
| 19:55:19 | <that_lurker> | https://archive.org/details/wiki-cookieclicker.wiki.gg-20231120 |
| 20:14:25 | <Exorcism> | <DogsRNice> "the cookie clicker wiki left..." <- i see why hehe |
| 20:14:27 | | Exorcism uploaded an image: (27KiB) < https://matrix.hackint.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/mozilla.org/b023f79d607ab77080e333d41c3a89d1ea211a561728869830347456512/image.png > |
| 20:17:08 | <Exorcism> | and I've just noticed that wikiforge have just changed their css? |
| 20:17:11 | | Exorcism uploaded an image: (212KiB) < https://matrix.hackint.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/mozilla.org/dab1d8301264b65d402681ee5082b835b17498601728870512261595136/image.png > |
| 20:18:29 | <eytirth> | Exorcism I rather like that CSS |
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