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| 19:55:32 | <Gooshka> | Hello please save Ukrainian wiki about Dnipro: http://tfde.dp.ua/%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0 |
| 19:56:46 | <pokechu22> | Gooshka: OK, working on it |
| 19:57:05 | <Gooshka> | Thank you very much |
| 20:00:20 | <pokechu22> | Do you know of any other similar wikis? |
| 20:01:06 | <Gooshka> | Also there is https://ukrmemoria.com/ , Ukrainian wikisite about memes and internet culture. Something like Encyclopedia Dramatica or Lurkmore |
| 20:02:10 | <Gooshka> | pokechu22 |
| 20:02:13 | <pokechu22> | Hmm, certificate on that's expired |
| 20:02:30 | <pokechu22> | Not a good sign for the site being stable - definitely worth grabbing |
| 20:03:27 | <Gooshka> | http://drama.kropyva.ch/ |
| 20:04:15 | <pokechu22> | I can't access that one or anything on http://kropyva.ch/ - it might be restricted to only people in the area? |
| 20:06:23 | <Gooshka> | IDK, maybe they are afraid of DDOS or something |
| 20:06:36 | <Gooshka> | https://wiki.kname.edu.ua/index.php?title=Головна_сторінка |
| 20:06:53 | <Gooshka> | Wiki of Kharkiv national university |
| 20:07:53 | <pokechu22> | I can access that one |
| 20:08:54 | <Gooshka> | Drama.kropyva or University's wiki? |
| 20:09:21 | <pokechu22> | The university's wiki |
| 20:10:45 | <Gooshka> | I don't know, it works for me. |
| 20:10:51 | <Gooshka> | https://wiki.servio.support/index.php?title=Головна_сторінка |
| 20:11:49 | <Gooshka> | Servio is Ukrainian company(related to hotels as I can see). Keep in mind that it uses Russian language for mediawiki, not Ukrainian |
| 20:12:10 | <Gooshka> | All wikis before Servio use Ukrainian |
| 20:12:14 | <pokechu22> | web.archive.org gets the same error with drama.kropyva.ch: https://web.archive.org/web/20230212200552/http://drama.kropyva.ch/ - probably will need a VPN or something for it |
| 20:12:58 | <Gooshka> | Maybe drama.kropyva.ch is open only for Ukrainians |
| 20:13:31 | <pokechu22> | It seems odd that it would use .ch (Switzerland) though |
| 20:15:58 | <Gooshka> | Vue.gov.ua - government's encyclopedia, uses mediawiki. Some of the files are actually from Wikimedia Commons, but not all, some images are |
| 20:16:35 | <Gooshka> | Some images are from Commons but not all and there are also audios for some articles |
| 20:18:38 | <Gooshka> | http://www.dimetris.com.ua/wiki/ Ukrainian wikisite, but uses Russian version of mediawiki |
| 20:22:11 | <Gooshka> | Lesya Ukrainka Volyn National University wiki |
| 20:22:15 | <Gooshka> | https://wiki.vnu.edu.ua/wiki/Головна_сторінка |
| 20:22:42 | <Gooshka> | Wiki.vnu uses Ukrainian language |
| 20:23:49 | <pokechu22> | The language the mediawiki interface uses isn't really as important as the language used for the content on the site itself |
| 20:29:54 | <Gooshka> | Really? I thought the interface language is the only that matters |
| 20:30:22 | <Gooshka> | Wiki of political party Sokyra https://wiki.sokyra.party/wiki/Головна_сторінка |
| 20:32:20 | <pokechu22> | The tool I use doesn't use the interface directly, but instead the mediawiki API, and in general the URLs don't get translated (e.g. always &action=edit, not &action=Перегляд) (though things like Special:Statistics do change to e.g. Спеціальна:Статистика) |
| 20:34:14 | <Gooshka> | Yes, and full Ukrainian wikis have Спеціальна, not Служебная (as Russian wikipedia has) |
| 20:34:26 | <tomodachi94> | pokechu22: Do you want me to help grab some of these wikis? |
| 20:34:53 | <pokechu22> | Sure, if you've got the tools set up it'd be good to have more than one person working on it |
| 20:35:55 | <pokechu22> | I've got http://tfde.dp.ua/ mostly downloaded (it's about halfway through the ~3000 images on it), haven't started on any other ones |
| 20:36:06 | <Gooshka> | Wiki about people and everything from city Zhydachiv |
| 20:36:11 | <Gooshka> | https://zhydachiv.wiki/wiki/Головна_сторінка |
| 20:37:18 | <Gooshka> | Although first 4 letters of city's name are anti-semitic slur this wiki is not |
| 20:40:51 | <Gooshka> | http://elrnold.fizmat.tnpu.edu.ua/index.php/%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0 |
| 20:42:33 | <Gooshka> | "Physical-mathemathical Wikipedia" according to the title. Made by Ternopil national pedagogical University |
| 20:44:34 | <Gooshka> | https://wiki.legalaid.gov.ua/index.php/Головна_сторінка Government wiki about law |
| 20:45:40 | <Gooshka> | Actually some pages such as this https://wiki.legalaid.gov.ua/index.php/Порядок_проведення_мобілізаційної_підготовки_та_мобілізації have interesting outlinks so maybe there should be used another tool |
| 20:47:52 | <Gooshka> | http://wiki.kubg.edu.ua/ wiki of Borys Grinchenko Kyiv University - Facebook |
| 20:52:32 | <Gooshka> | https://akkermanika.org/wiki/Головна_сторінка wiki of Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi Raion of |
| 20:54:52 | <tomodachi94> | pokechu22: I can't figure out how to setup the tool. It's probably something weird with my Python install (I do Python dev, but I have Python3 installed). |
| 20:55:20 | <pokechu22> | Yeah, it's a bit of a pain to set up and requires python2 still :/ |
| 20:55:41 | <Gooshka> | Well, ladies and gentlemen thank you for saving wikis and hope you can save these |
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| 20:56:16 | <tomodachi94> | Gooshka: Thanks for sharing these wikis with us! Don't hesitate to send more if you find any! |
| 20:56:27 | <pokechu22> | tomodachi94: Are you able to load http://drama.kropyva.ch ? |
| 20:57:10 | <tomodachi94> | pokechu22: Looks like it's region-locked. |
| 20:58:37 | <tomodachi94> | Also, is it just me, or has WikiApiary been long dead? |
| 20:59:23 | <pokechu22> | It's been super unstable recently... a few days ago it was actually working quite nicely, but now it's returned to not being able to add sites properly |
| 21:01:13 | <pokechu22> | The bookmarklet works well enough though (as in you get a result at all, even if you have to wait 10 seconds or longer) and none of the sites I checked were on wikiapiary (though I didn't check all of them) |
| 21:01:17 | <pokechu22> | https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/WikiApiary:Bookmarklet |
| 21:02:02 | <tomodachi94> | pokechu22: Did you add these wikis to WikiApiary or should I? |
| 21:02:39 | <pokechu22> | I haven't yet - feel free to try to add them (but when I've tried to add wikis lately the site just breaks) |
| 21:31:44 | <pokechu22> | Oh, right, one random thing: although wikiteam tools don't care about the language of a wiki, archivebot does (because special pages have translated names, and we want to ignore some special pages), so archivebot has different mediawiki ignore sets for different languages |
| 21:36:53 | <tomodachi94> | pokechu22: I managed to get the tools working. |
| 21:37:14 | <tomodachi94> | Currently grabbing the Sokyra wiki. |
| 21:38:11 | <pokechu22> | Several of the other wikis I tried gave "WARNING: This wiki does not allow some parameters in Special:Export, therefore pages with large histories may be truncated" (and --xmlrevisions also didn't work) - I have a workaround that probably will work for those but it'll take a bit of work |
| 21:38:47 | <pokechu22> | But, if you see that, just try a different wiki for now; you're not getting any history at all beyond the current revision to my understanding |
| 22:00:37 | <tomodachi94> | Sokyra wiki grabbed. Working on "Physical-mathemathical Wikipedia" |
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| 22:08:01 | <pokechu22> | I'm currently downloading https://zhydachiv.wiki/ and uploading tfde.dp.ua |
| 22:08:19 | <pokechu22> | I should really learn the cyrillic alphabet at some point; it'd make things like this a bit easier |
| 22:13:54 | <tomodachi94> | 'Physical-mathematical Wikipedia' keeps timing out, moving on to Legalaid |
| 22:14:08 | <tomodachi94> | Also, Sokyra wiki is uploaded. |
| 22:22:27 | <tomodachi94> | Gooshka: Does http://drama.kropyva.ch load for you? |
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| 23:08:44 | <tomodachi94> | pokechu22: Should I be worried if the script says `Warning. Could not use allrevisions. Wiki too old?`? |
| 23:09:39 | <pokechu22> | Yeah, that's generally not a good thing. I assume you're using --xmlrevisions; that means --xmlrevisions failed and it's falling back to a different system that's currently broken |
| 23:10:11 | <tomodachi94> | pokechu22: Should I just abort then? |
| 23:10:20 | <pokechu22> | Yeah. Which wiki was this on? |
| 23:10:53 | <tomodachi94> | It was for <http://wiki.kubg.edu.ua>. |
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| 23:19:02 | <tomodachi94> | The script says <http://www.dimetris.com.ua/wiki/> isn't MediaWiki; how should we approach this one pokechu22? |
| 23:20:38 | <pokechu22> | view-source:http://www.dimetris.com.ua/wiki/ says it's DokuWiki (and the URLs it's using seem to agree with that), which wikiteam tools don't support... but the styling definitely does look like mediawiki |
| 23:20:50 | <pokechu22> | Archivebot also handles dokuwiki poorly though, so I'm not sure what to do about that |
| 23:21:47 | <tomodachi94> | Looks like there's an `export` feature in DokuWiki, not sure how to use that: <https://www.dokuwiki.org/export> |
| 23:22:52 | <pokechu22> | I think there's a pull request that adds support for dokuwiki but I've never tried it |
| 23:22:54 | <tomodachi94> | Grabbing http://wiki.vnu.edu.ua/ currently |
| 23:25:18 | <pokechu22> | and I'm doing https://akkermanika.org/ |
| 23:37:16 | <tomodachi94> | pokechu22: it looks like DokuWiki has an XML-RPC API that can access revision history: https://www.dokuwiki.org/devel:xmlrpc |