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| 08:21:30 | | Topic: Finding ISP web hosting services before the Grim Reaper finds them. | https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ISP_Hosting |
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| 18:20:39 | <pokechu22> | Here's another list of usernames that needs !a < list: https://transfer.archivete.am/X67z4/www.kotikone.fi_usernames.txt |
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| 23:06:23 | <pokechu22> | http://www.nettilinja.fi/~mjhuur1/ == http://koti.nettilinja.fi/~mjhuur1/ == http://hevi.nettilinja.fi/~mjhuur1/ |
| 23:10:11 | <pokechu22> | Here's yet another list of usernames: https://transfer.archivete.am/hbU3J/www.nettilinja.fi_usernames.txt |
| 23:13:27 | <pokechu22> | And a question... from https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Saunalahti_Iso_G I see https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=pp.fi and https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ArchiveTeam/iso-g-items/master/added/isog-http___010606.pp.fi-http__jkphoto.pp.fi.txt and I'm a bit confused about that, as it seems like *that* was also done with !a < list. Does !a < list work |
| 23:13:29 | <pokechu22> | properly with different domains like that, and it just doesn't like URLs on the same domain but with different numbers of slashes? |
| 23:14:52 | <@JAA> | It works fine as long as there are no crosslinks between the sites. |
| 23:16:23 | <pokechu22> | hmm, and http://james.pp.fi/ no longer works for me but http://www.james.pp.fi/ does, but it looks like both were attempted |
| 23:16:31 | <@JAA> | If there are such crosslinks, the same madness as with a single domain but different paths happens. |
| 23:16:55 | <pokechu22> | I don't actually know what happens in that case |
| 23:17:14 | <pokechu22> | but I suspect at least some of them will link to other ones |
| 23:18:36 | <@JAA> | Actually, not quite the same madness, even madder. Some links will get skipped, but at the same time, some stuff will recurse that shouldn't. |
| 23:19:09 | <@JAA> | The latter can't happen with a single domain (I think). |
| 23:19:45 | <pokechu22> | Is it likely that the same issue affected the original job back in 2015? |
| 23:20:57 | <pokechu22> | I'm guessing the easiest fix for those would be to build a big list of domains, then do !ao < list for them to determine how many are still live, and then handle them one at a time afterwards |
| 23:22:04 | <pokechu22> | oh, hm, also, http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/james/ == http://www.james.pp.fi so I guess that's an alternative |
| 23:23:29 | <pokechu22> | as is http://www.personal.eunet.fi/pp/james/ |
| 23:24:16 | <@JAA> | I don't think wpull's filter rules changed since 2015, so probably, it had the same behaviour at the time, yeah. Not certain though, that was well before my time here. |
| 23:38:04 | <pokechu22> | http://wwnet.fi/users/veijone/ == http://wwnet.fi/~veijone/ == http://www.wwnet.fi/m/~veijone/ == www.wwnet.fi/asdf/~veijone/; same with www. http://wwnet.fi/eskl/ is distinct from ~eskl or /users/eskl though |
| 23:50:02 | <pokechu22> | http://wwnet.fi/esatk/ gives 403 for /~/, http://wwnet.fi/esatky/ which once existed gives 404 for /~esatky1/ (as does http://wwnet.fi/~esatky1/). http://wwnet.fi/~eskl/ doesn't have the apache footer while http://wwnet.fi/~eskl1/ does. This site is weird. |