00:49:44<fireonlive>oh interesting
00:57:29<flashfire42>we have a version 4?
00:58:14<flashfire42>Um maybe change the channel heading it points to version 3 still
00:58:53<flashfire42>cc chfoo arkiver
02:39:52<Ryz>What's the differences between version 4 and version 3? oo;
02:40:19<Ryz>tech234a, loading up the stuff, I see some new sstuff, I haven't seen before from the VM, it's updating
02:41:27<Ryz>tech234a, it woooooorks, woooooo >#<;
02:56:33<tech234a>cool, glad it works!
02:57:57<tech234a>re the differences between version 4 and version 3, I wrote something for the wiki. I wasn't involved in making version 4 (chfoo made it), so it's possible I missed something but this should give a general idea of the updates: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam_Warrior#What's_new_in_version_4.0_of_the_Warrior_virtual_machine?
03:15:21<@arkiver>tech234a: chfoo: the wiki now notes the user can use 3.2 or 4 at the top of the page https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam_Warrior
03:15:43<@arkiver>is there a good reason to keep mentioning 3.2 as option there? or should we leave this out and only mention version 4 as option to run with?
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03:18:45<tech234a>I'm not sure why warrior4 hasn't been promoted more. I know it was initially a beta but it looks like the July release on was marked as Stable on GitHub (instead of pre-release) https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior4-vm/releases
03:19:02<tech234a>I assume chfoo would know more
03:20:53<tech234a>warrior4 wasn't listed on the wiki at all before I added it today, but maybe the links to 3.2 should be removed or at least placed lower on the page
03:21:50<tech234a>if we do that it would make sense to also update all the VirtualBox commands on the page that reference 3.2
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03:34:17<tech234a>also the listed Internet Archive and Syping Development (DE) links for 3.2 don't appear to be Archive Team-controlled
03:35:28<@arkiver>if chfoo can confirm that warrior4 is stable and has at least all features warrior3 has, then I think we can from now mention everywhere to use warrior4 instead of warrior3.2
03:37:47<tech234a>I know it has a new patching technique compared to warrior3
03:38:29<tech234a>Also it doesn't separate out the watchtower logs from the warrior container logs but I think that's kind of minor
03:53:45<@arkiver>tech234a: would it be easy to still add that?
03:56:09<tech234a>yeah looks like it could just be added based on https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior4-vm/blob/main/appliance/skeleton/usr/bin/warrior4-display-logs and assigned to tty3 using https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior4-vm/blob/main/appliance/skeleton/etc/inittab
03:58:57<tech234a>I don't think warrior4 downloads and runs a startup.sh on boot but I'm guessing the new patching mechanism is supposed to solve the problem in a different way
04:00:18<tech234a>The ability to update startup.sh was helpful in 2021 (new Docker image, add Watchtower) and again recently (system/Docker update) to make configuration changes to existing VMs.
04:22:25<fireonlive>looks like the new patching mech is here? https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior4-vm/blob/main/appliance/script/patch.sh
04:23:27<fireonlive>ah that's the template
04:26:58<fireonlive>https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior4-vm/blob/1677f2e2ef927281dc212bc99d204fc454f714cd/dev.md?plain=1#L82 https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior4-vm/blob/1677f2e2ef927281dc212bc99d204fc454f714cd/crates/warrior4-appliance/src/manager.rs#L345
04:26:58<fireonlive>https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior4-vm/blob/1677f2e2ef927281dc212bc99d204fc454f714cd/crates/warrior4-appliance/src/manager.rs#L91
04:27:03<fireonlive>if you were a curious kitty like me
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06:08:18<tech234a>https://tracker.archiveteam.org/ also still points to warrior3 (and has an inaccurate file size)
06:09:01<tech234a>that whole section at the top should probably point more directly to the wiki or something
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17:52:27<that_lurker>The link "ArchiveTeam Warrior " point to the warrior wiki
17:52:44<that_lurker>s/point/points
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