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| 00:09:02 | <@JAA> | Welp, I'm a few minutes too late. Will reach out to them. Thanks for the ping, aarchi. |
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| 13:58:52 | <Codefined> | I'll be around for five or six hours now, :) |
| 14:00:23 | <aarchi> | 02:09:03 <JAA> Welp, I'm a few minutes too late. Will reach out to them. Thanks for the ping, aarchi. |
| 14:00:57 | <Codefined> | Ah, cheers! :) |
| 14:01:05 | <Codefined> | Are you just always around here aarchi! |
| 14:01:49 | <aarchi> | Technically yes :). My IRC client (IRCCloud) will automatically reconnect me |
| 14:02:14 | <aarchi> | I mostly just monitor the #urlteam channel though |
| 14:05:28 | <aarchi> | I was more active earlier this year when I was working on a project to revive dead shorteners for which we have dumps of the link mappings, but I lost steam after I finished the data processing part |
| 14:06:28 | <Codefined> | Can imagine. Takes a lot of willpower to go through it all. |
| 14:06:59 | <Codefined> | Ran Femto for like 7 years? The first half a decade felt like I had infinite energy, but now "URL shorteners were a terrible idea" really resonates with me. Imagine it's even harder for people saving the dead shorteners. |
| 14:07:19 | <aarchi> | I'm sure that we'd at least take your URL shortener mappings. I don't know for the rest of the data because I'm less involved there |
| 14:08:05 | <Codefined> | I'm sure I can come up with other methods of saving the data if you're not willing to take it. Even if it's just maintaining a torrent of all of it for a year :) |
| 14:11:54 | <aarchi> | If I'm understanding Femto correctly, it was a file upload site, right? |
| 14:13:31 | <aarchi> | By the way, #archiveteam-bs is our more general-purpose discussion channel. People there would know more about archiving your 1.5TB |
| 14:16:26 | <aarchi> | #urlteam is a much less active channel since the project mostly just runs on autopilot with the Warrior, which is our distributed system for grabbing sites |
| 14:18:02 | <Codefined> | It was a file upload site, but it also happened to have a url shortener included. |
| 14:18:17 | <Codefined> | I'll go check out #archiveteam-bs too :) |
| 14:19:22 | <aarchi> | Was your shortener coded from scratch? Or did it use some library or Bitly? |
| 14:19:41 | <Codefined> | Coded from scratch. |
| 14:20:30 | <Codefined> | Which has the benefit that I can provide it in any format you'd really want. I've already done some work to make it easier to work with. |
| 14:20:56 | <Codefined> | Currently looks like http://hastebin.com/seyawalero.json |
| 14:22:48 | <aarchi> | Great! Since it's in JSON, we won't have to deal with some badly-escaped URLs in some bespoke CSV format :) |
| 14:22:58 | <Codefined> | Hah! |
| 14:24:11 | <aarchi> | Your example links to https://github.com/kaola-fed/url-shortener-extension. Is that related to your shortener? |
| 14:24:43 | <Codefined> | Not at all, :) |
| 14:25:56 | <Codefined> | Most of the codebase is under the "femto-apps" repo, so stuff like https://github.com/femto-apps/web-file-uploader |
| 14:26:49 | <Codefined> | But we did make a chrome extension at one point to upload files / shorten urls and we based it off of that. So I had it in my history of shortened links :) |
| 14:27:40 | <aarchi> | Ah nice |
| 14:29:00 | <aarchi> | Looks like we have femto.pw in our list of alive shorteners: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=URLTeam#Alive |
| 14:34:50 | <Codefined> | It was alive until recently. Our raid cluster failed. |
| 14:35:21 | <aarchi> | "I admit it, yesterday, I built yet another URL shortener with some friends of mine from Subject Refresh. Despite most URL shorteners being detrimental to society, with them disappearing and taking massive sections of the internet with them, we thought we’d add yet another one to see how well our team worked together." https://femto.dev/post/setting-up-a-url-shortener/ |
| 14:35:26 | <Codefined> | And I'm not comfortable running the system with half of our raid cluster broken. Although our data is still 10)% there. |
| 14:35:51 | <Codefined> | aarchi I was 15! |
| 14:35:53 | <Codefined> | And foolish. |
| 14:36:01 | <aarchi> | Lol |
| 14:36:45 | <Codefined> | Actually, my birthday is in March, so I'd have been 14... |
| 14:37:41 | <aarchi> | Is subr.pw yours? |
| 14:38:13 | <Codefined> | Tangentially. I helped build it but a friend maintains that. |
| 14:39:13 | <Codefined> | Huh, apparently my friend doesn't maintain it anymore as the URL seems to be dead. |
| 14:39:16 | <aarchi> | Looks dead. Only a few pages were archived: https://web.archive.org/web/*/subr.pw/* |
| 14:39:42 | <Codefined> | I'll see if I can grab the database from him. |
| 14:40:10 | <aarchi> | There's a partial list of shortened links here: https://web.archive.org/web/20160403045745/http://subr.pw/shortened |
| 14:42:15 | <Codefined> | I enjoy how a bunch of those URLs seem to be to other URL shortenerss. |
| 14:42:50 | <Codefined> | And whatever this horrible URL is I don't particularly want to click on hxxp(colon)(slash)(slash)info.varonis.com/e1t/c/*W35Mv9H49t3ByW6HFsK71btKM90/*W5l23lB2ZMYvwW4Vc2fR3FTvlq0/5/f18dQhb0S4JY2RwkMJW12P2_H5gbZ2KW4Nrc2Y94kHQVVXtwy35w7s38W791hVB20s9C8W1_J10d7-743-W7tRy5w5pNGMyW5_G8628_81KsW7JsDn18vq-SLW67fDjD7dswhxW4p_J1y8fWRtRW8ngXFX2Pg7TlW3s--zt6Kj |
| 14:42:50 | <Codefined> | YT3W18SPGr49cYNMW46L5Q02Fnby3W5qhLJ22WV6-sW1tcHb51y1JnGN7FxmbQfdqxzVWr5zw8SqvtZW1pTcCR2cwS4WW95Tccs2sGS9TVTZBzj2GJck8W1cbv6r79_2QnW4r2ks-8kT9s_W5Zfls63mdF5sW2G1YlH5YVrs4W4-j0dl2kxW7XW5m41-T6LGSqHVBppyj6DXXS1W81Hsdq4BtY1fW85Mgtg75HRr2W30l_mF7QB0lHW8m9wPz3Y-Tg9VMRql_3-YRn-W5kPyVD7sf9P6W1HW48J5Cm7kwW6_631z65rtwHW2nrSh06t_gppW3mQ_388Ftqb2VbTNvw8YXFvmW5 |
| 14:42:51 | <Codefined> | CghVG6g76v_W394z4q1-tJ7-W5MCQCn2zmChDW5TYsP48yQNWjW1tc-776c3Kw2W7x69S392r8BSW5xsKvc3Q7hhXW4DlxYj2SVmxPW9m2RDb2JdMdHW8GPn893wdjqS102 |
| 14:42:53 | <aarchi> | Infinite analytics! |
| 14:44:07 | <aarchi> | I hate aggressive analytics like in some shorteners or, apparently, this huge URL |
| 14:45:14 | <Codefined> | Yeah... |
| 14:45:33 | <Codefined> | I track view counts but with no granularity. Hate how some websites seem to track your every mouse movement. |
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| 18:06:38 | <@JAA> | Welp, missed them again. lol |
| 18:07:18 | <aarchi> | RIP. Email probably works better for them then |
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