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15:48:15<justauser>Anybody else seen https://old.reddit.com/r/internetarchive/comments/1ubt4vl/seriously_dont_trust_ia_to_host_any_data_some_of/ ? Not a single verifiable claim, but doesn't look good.
16:25:05<cruller>https://old.reddit.com/r/internetarchive/comments/1u9dc3h/metadata_error/ similar one (found from their activity)
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17:53:57<IDK>does anyone have an example of this page?
18:00:00<klea>https://archive.org/editxml/xxx with xxx being a non-existent identifier shows the primary US node message (when logged in)
18:01:02<IDK>klea: isnt there something where one can see which node its being served from even with darked item?
18:01:59<IDK>https://archive.org/metadata/xxx
18:03:02<klea>We do need their item IDs to see the nodes tho.
18:03:26<IDK>klea: are we sure no one is getting into IA's server and manually deleting files?
18:03:53<klea>I'd be scared if that were the case.
18:04:12<IDK>I still have a feeling IA's security is disproportionately lax
18:04:16<IDK>like 2005 lax
18:04:37<klea>I think they may have improved on it somewhat after the 2020 hack, but IDK.
18:05:22<IDK>klea: before that it was basically no security,
18:05:30<IDK> I remember I was still able to change the upload date to 1969 with inspect element back in 2019
18:05:48<klea>The upload date is part of the item metadata that's not restricted.
18:06:17<IDK>nothing was restricted back in 2019
18:06:19<klea>And you can set it to whatever via the API, even if their web UI limits the range.
18:07:21<klea>collections were AFAIK?
18:07:50<IDK>klea: I never tried tbh, but I know you could change the uploader to whoever you want
18:08:04<IDK>and then it might get put into collections idk
18:08:19<klea>Wut
18:09:28<IDK>tbh, I managed to remove the uploader on one of my items back then and put one of my garbage items under an admin (all in 2019 ofc)
18:22:39<IDK>but indeed, looks like IA's "metadata fetching" performance is down the drain recently, I have a few "unable to load metadata from item location" moment but they tend to return quickly for me
18:22:44<IDK>example: https://archive.org/details/j8LKNuaygms
18:22:56<IDK>example2: https://archive.org/details/adhd-extra-allt
18:23:17<IDK>going to the metadata page returns {"error":"unable to load metadata from item location"}
18:26:59<IDK>looks the fucked up items all got moved to dn*.us.archive.org, no idea what dn means instead of ia
18:27:52<justauser>DeadNode?
18:28:11<justauser>I think some dn's worked fine for me in the past.
18:28:28<IDK>https://dn801201.us.archive.org/0/items/kar-svt/1.%20Gillar%20du%20honom.mp4 works fine tho
18:28:54<IDK>anyways the one that didnt work pointed to dn800303.us.archive.org instead of the old ia* nodes
18:29:12<IDK>canada node just started throwing 500 instead
18:39:14<IDK>looks like problem is quite widespread actually, always ones that has dn as their primary us node
18:50:55<klea>Denver?
18:51:59<IDK>nah they are still in sfo
19:50:49<TheTechRobo>adhd-extra-allt is loading sporadically for me, seems to be some load problems, yeah
19:51:04<TheTechRobo>Also sometimes seeing metadata retrieval errors on arthur-season-1
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