| 00:00:03 | <eggdrop> | [remind] arkiver: pabs3 account issue :) |
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| 11:16:53 | <Webuser597678> | "Save Page Now 2 Public API Docs Draft" by Vangelis Banos says "Max captures per minute for authenticated users = 12 and for anonymous users = 4", but you can currently save only three pages per minute even when you have logged in according to the user status page (https://web.archive.org/save/status/user). |
| 11:18:08 | <Webuser597678> | Would you tell me whether this change of limitation is permanent? |
| 14:18:40 | <justauser> | Thinner and thinner... |
| 14:18:50 | <justauser> | So far, the limit is only going down. |
| 14:58:18 | <Webuser597678> | Well, is the document no longer maintained? I would like to know the reason why Internet Archive has changed the behavior of SPN without any notice. |
| 15:11:11 | <justauser> | I think we maintain this information on our wiki. |
| 15:35:46 | <Webuser597678> | Well, the page "Internet Archive/Save Page Now" of your wiki refers to the document "Save Page Now 2 Public API Docs Draft". |
| 15:46:33 | <justauser> | Yeah, I was wrong and we don't. |
| 15:58:49 | <cruller> | Webuser597678: The document says "updated: 2025-10-22", but some sections haven't been updated for a long time, IIRC. |
| 16:20:21 | <cruller> | In the first place, is that API completely official? Certainly, it’s easy to see that it exists by using the official UI, and its documentation is written by an IA employee. However, it's titled "Draft" and isn't linked from archive.org. |
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| 16:41:03 | <Webuser597678> | What I know is that Mark Graham, the director of the Wayback Machine, has referred to the document in an answer post on Stack Exchange. (https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/151299/does-the-internet-wayback-machine-api-support-adding-a-link-to-scrape/151360#151360) |
| 17:19:29 | <IDK> | last week it was still 5-7, depending how high your daily_captures is |
| 17:31:33 | <cruller> | Oh, I didn't know that the limits differ depending on the account. |
| 17:35:14 | <IDK> | I assumed it was daily_captures, maybe its something else affecting your limit |
| 17:39:55 | <Webuser597678> | I remember that the maximum number of concurrent captures was set to seven until a few days ago. |
| 18:23:22 | <cruller> | If necessary, I can provide the logs of https://web.archive.org/save/status/user for the past few months. |
| 18:33:07 | <cruller> | That's because I've been used a modified version of https://github.com/overcast07/wayback-machine-spn-scripts/blob/main/spn.sh created with the following command: sed -i 's/curl "${curl_args\[@\]}"/curl "${curl_args[@]}" --trace trace-$(date +%s).log --trace-time/g' spn.sh |
| 18:34:24 | <cruller> | *using |
| 20:15:53 | <klea> | cruller: Yes, there's a magic flag that some people can get to get a higher limit. |
| 20:16:25 | <klea> | So it's not unreasonable that IA has some more complex logic to determine rate limits. |
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| 20:58:07 | <IDK> | Jake: Make "idkhowto"'s limit 15 :p |
| 20:58:16 | <IDK> | I pinky promise to not abuse :-) |
| 21:00:34 | <klea> | Uhh, not sure they have that granularity. |
| 21:39:21 | <cruller> | klea: Come to think of it, there’s a mysterious string "spn2-vip" in https://web.archive.org/save/status/system |
| 21:39:38 | <cruller> | (I’m not sure if this is the flag you’re referring to, though.) |
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| 22:11:43 | <IDK> | cruller: http://vip.web.archive.org/save is a thing tho, redirecting to the normal wayback machine |
| 22:12:01 | <IDK> | you cant actually use it unlike https://web-beta.archive.org/save |
| 22:18:01 | <cruller> | IDK: I see. I wonder if there are actually any "VIPs" who can use it. |