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| 03:44:30 | <nicolas17> | WBM down? |
| 03:44:44 | <nicolas17> | hm archive.org homepage is showing only the nav bar too |
| 04:06:40 | <Jake> | power outage |
| 04:21:21 | <nicolas17> | thx for info |
| 05:12:13 | <DigitalDragons> | Doranwen: (from -ot) are you trying to do anything fancy or just "throw some files on IA"? |
| 05:15:41 | <Doranwen> | Just a folder with an iso and a few scans of the covers and insert. |
| 05:15:46 | <Doranwen> | So not really that fancy. |
| 05:16:18 | <Doranwen> | The upload example only shows how to list a couple files, though, and I have completely forgotten how I uploaded the Yahoo Groups metadata, lol. I know I used the cli thing but people here helped me with the command, I'm sure. |
| 05:16:31 | <Doranwen> | A case of "don't do something often enough and you forget how to do it" |
| 05:18:12 | <Doranwen> | The example given was `ia upload <identifier> file1 file2 --metadata="mediatype:texts" --metadata="param:arg"` and what I'm uploading is a really old game, the sort that requires Win95 to run, lol. I came up with this: `ia upload <identifier> /path/to/folder/ --metadata="mediatype:software" --metadata="title:gametitle"` (where the identifier and gametitle are obviously the actual things and not my placeholders here) but don't know if I' |
| 05:18:14 | <Doranwen> | m way off or what. |
| 05:21:02 | <nicolas17> | you need to get the identifier, mediatype, and collection right |
| 05:21:08 | <nicolas17> | everything else can be edited from the web interface later |
| 05:21:57 | <nicolas17> | so don't stress too much about the rest of the metadata |
| 05:23:27 | <Doranwen> | OK. What do I do about the collection? |
| 05:23:41 | <DigitalDragons> | That looks fine to me, the only note I have is that you probably want /path/to/folder/* (ie, all the files inside your folder) so that your files don't end up inside a folder in the item (not 100% sure if this is necessary, it might be smart enough to do it the right way on its own, but just to be safe) |
| 05:23:57 | <Doranwen> | Ah, add the * after it, OK. |
| 05:24:23 | <nicolas17> | Doranwen: afaik, you lie and you set -m collection:open_source_software because you don't have access to other collections, and then someone else may move it somewhere more suitable |
| 05:26:03 | <Doranwen> | LOL I see |
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| 05:26:55 | <DigitalDragons> | or you just dump it in the texts collection and hope your metadata is good enough for something/someone to move it elsewhere :p |
| 05:28:29 | <nicolas17> | partly it's because |
| 05:29:07 | <nicolas17> | yes it's open source and not under copyright and I totally have permission to redistribute it and upload it to the website wink wink nudge nudge |
| 05:29:15 | <Doranwen> | XD |
| 05:34:05 | <Doranwen> | So now I have `ia upload <identifier> /path/to/file/* -m collection:open_source_software --metadata="mediatype:software"` and will do the rest of the metadata on the site - that look good, then, or is there something awry in my formatting there? I copied the collection formatting that you suggested but am wondering if it should match the other formatting somehow…? |
| 05:34:46 | <nicolas17> | -m key:value and --metadata="key:value" are the same |
| 05:34:51 | <Doranwen> | Ahhhhhhh, I see. |
| 05:34:59 | <nicolas17> | also you *could* set title and stuff from here |
| 05:35:28 | <nicolas17> | I just meant if you screw it up, you can fix it later |
| 05:36:08 | <nicolas17> | while if you accidentally set mediatype:texts you have to email IA to fix it for you |
| 05:37:05 | <Doranwen> | I suppose so, lol. The title was the one thing I could think of. I suppose I should look at the sister software that someone else uploaded and see what they put for metadata. The games are identical in all ways but the general theme, to the point that I think the person who created the Lutris installer for the other one will be able to just copy and change a few words to create an installer for this one. |
| 05:39:08 | <nicolas17> | for DOS games on floppy and other old platforms, by setting a bunch of metadata correctly you can make them playable on the web emulator |
| 05:39:21 | <nicolas17> | and setting that correctly probably takes a bunch of trial and error :P |
| 05:41:43 | <Doranwen> | This was intended for 3.1 but came out in 1995 and the Lutris installer creator chose Win95 to run it on, so. /\o/\ Someone *did* set up the *demo* for this game on the emulator but I have no idea how that was done. |
| 05:42:36 | <nicolas17> | I think if it needs an "installer" it won't work |
| 05:42:57 | <Doranwen> | Yeah, I was coming to that exact conclusion - that it would never work because it requires installation. |
| 05:43:11 | <Doranwen> | The demo doesn't, hence why it works. |
| 05:43:31 | <Doranwen> | I looked at the metadata they picked and saw how they were starting it, and went "well, that wouldn't work" lol. |
| 05:43:52 | <Doranwen> | It's fine - it works pretty well with Lutris, I just have to have it up there for someone to be able to create an install script to use it. |
| 05:45:04 | <Doranwen> | I'm very amused that 30-year-old Windows games only now work on Linux. |
| 05:45:16 | <Doranwen> | *now only |
| 05:45:35 | <Doranwen> | These I think *maybe* I was able to install on XP - but that was the last Windows I could get them to run on. |
| 05:45:44 | <nicolas17> | tbf some modern games work better on Linux than on Windows too |
| 05:46:10 | <Doranwen> | Years ago I was told Linux was great for a lot of things but still bad for gaming. I don't think that's true anymore. |
| 05:46:31 | <nicolas17> | Steam Deck doesn't have ads in the start menu :P |
| 05:46:49 | | Doranwen went to Linux anyway because she wasn't a serious gamer, but now she can rediscover her childhood favorites thanks to Lutris and IA. |
| 05:48:19 | <Doranwen> | Oh, one more metadata question - if the metadata has a space in it, do I have to do anything special? Like if I'm putting in the title, and it's two words, do I do `--metadata="title:Game Title"` or do I need to use a + instead of the space or something? |
| 05:49:51 | <Doranwen> | Or should I just not worry about it, and edit it in the web interface, lol. |
| 05:51:58 | <Doranwen> | And I'm assuming the identifier is just straight what's after the `https://archive.org/details/` bit of the links. So if I want the final link to be https://archive.org/details/the-multimedia-bird-book, I just set the identifier to "the-multimedia-bird-book" (sans quotes)? |
| 05:54:06 | <nicolas17> | yes, the identifier is that |
| 05:54:23 | <nicolas17> | for spaces in metadata, using quotes like that is fine |
| 06:01:54 | <Doranwen> | Excellent, then I guess I'm ready to upload. |
| 06:04:25 | <Doranwen> | …And it looked like it uploaded the first pic, and then gave me this error: "Please reduce your request rate. - total_tasks_queued exceeds global_limit" |
| 06:05:32 | <Doranwen> | Apparently the cure for that is adding `--retries 300` or some other equally large number to the end of the command. |
| 06:07:49 | <Doranwen> | Well, that was someone's reply to an issue about that where it thought they were spam. I'm not finding anything with the "exceeds global_limit" bit. |
| 06:08:15 | <Doranwen> | Aha: `warning: s3 is overloaded, sleeping for 30 seconds and retrying. 299 retries left.` |
| 06:08:33 | <Doranwen> | Well, hopefully it'll get through the files before all the retries expire, lol. |
| 06:09:08 | <@JAA> | IA is still recovering from the outage. |
| 06:09:16 | <Jake> | ^ |
| 06:09:22 | <Jake> | beat me to it 😄 |
| 06:11:23 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 06:12:08 | <Doranwen> | Makes sense. |
| 06:12:19 | <Doranwen> | Well, I don't have that many files to upload, so hopefully it works. |
| 06:12:37 | <Doranwen> | Thank you all for the help - I've saved this example so I can use it to model after in the future. |
| 06:13:06 | <Doranwen> | (I thought I'd done that with the Yahoo Groups upload but I have no idea what I did with the command then, lol.) |
| 06:43:16 | <Doranwen> | Out of curiosity, do you know if one type of image format is preferred over another for uploads to IA? Like, does it matter if it's png vs. jpg? |
| 06:46:24 | <IDK> | PG&E's fault? |
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| 07:18:12 | <Webuser027840> | Is IA down or only WBM? |
| 07:21:09 | <Jake> | both |
| 07:25:41 | <Webuser027840> | Jake++ |
| 07:25:41 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'Jake' now has 2 karma! |
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| 08:34:15 | <datechnoman> | Having a bad run over the last few days |
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| 14:35:26 | <dendory> | Uploads seem to not be working right now. I just get a 503 error when trying to upload something. |
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| 14:43:31 | <X-Scale> | Hello. The Internet Archive doesn't seem to be working for several hours now. Any updates on what's happening? |
| 14:45:38 | <justauser|m> | Power outage, again. |
| 14:48:08 | <X-Scale> | Oh, I see. Thanks for the update. |
| 14:56:01 | <X-Scale> | https://x.com/internetarchive/status/1991504182411685955 |
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| 16:07:56 | <IDK> | Any plans for Internet Archive Canada SPN? |
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| 20:37:02 | <nicolas17> | can I upload to IA yet? |
| 20:44:04 | <@JAA> | It's a fibre cut: https://nitter.net/internetarchive/status/1991600485489656023 |
| 20:44:35 | <nicolas17> | oof downloading works but very slow, I think I'll wait |
| 20:44:37 | <@JAA> | nicolas17: Unless it's urgent, I'd suggest to wait. |
| 20:46:41 | <nicolas17> | hope AT's buffers are doing well |
| 20:46:59 | <@JAA> | <this_is_fine.png> |
| 21:04:45 | <steering> | https://nitter.net/kn0wmadic/status/1991602000845590837#m lol (and also mexico has a very interesting shape in that meme) |
| 21:08:42 | <@JAA> | Mexico's shape is fine, but only the western part is shaded for the species' habitat. |
| 21:10:20 | <steering> | oh, u rite, i couldn't even see that bit of line in the thumbnail |
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