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00:56:11<pabs>wow! the SPN email interface is still working, but very backlogged!
00:56:13<pabs>Save Page Now received your email with subject "test the SPN email address is still working" on 2025-06-01 23:42:45+00:00 UTC. It took us ~40 days to process it.
01:45:00<BlankEclair>wtf
02:18:21<nicolas17>pabs: since you're collecting problems
02:18:44<nicolas17>https://web.archive.org/web/20250613011410/https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/asdasd didn't this have a "save page now" button before?
02:18:50<nicolas17>when was that removed?
02:19:28<pabs>hmm, maybe it doesn't do it for 404s?
02:19:33<nicolas17>a friend asked me "Is archive.org not allowing users to archive new URLs anymore?" because she always used that "save now" button and didn't even know about /save
02:19:51<nicolas17>https://web.archive.org/web/20250613011410/https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/Apple_Maps_icons non-404 example
02:21:21<pabs>yeah, confirmed. please add to the wiki :)
02:21:25<pabs>arkiver: ^
02:21:48<nicolas17>I'm very curious when it went away
02:22:01<pabs>I feel like the not-archived page before looked different to the one now
02:22:18<nicolas17>yeah I think it actually used to check
02:22:26<pabs>maybe they aren't doing the detect-if-the-page exists requests now?
02:22:42<nicolas17>and then say either "this page is still live and you can save it now" or "we don't have it archived and it's not live either"
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09:57:05<@JAA>I've seen the buttons break from time to time. My guess was that something was overloaded, and those liveness requests seem like an easy way to shed non-critical load.
14:04:21<pabs>TBH I'm surprised the not-yet-archived page doesn't archive the page in the background, during the aliveness check
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