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| 00:43:57 | <StarletCharlotte> | For a while, I've seen people speculate that IA's file archive (in contrast to the Wayback Machine) is likely on borrowed time and could very well collapse at some point due to lawsuits or something. If that happens... What do we do? How do we prevent that? How do we back it all up? How do we make more stable room for services like IA's virtual library, that aren't just at the mercy of the legal teams of |
| 00:43:58 | <StarletCharlotte> | various large companies who could probably come up with a case to forcibly take it down whenever, or lobby their way into getting it taken down... |
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| 04:41:50 | <OrIdow6> | StarletCharlotte: That kind of guilt-by-association thing is the way social media companies behave when they want to try to stay out of the New York Times, but that's not what's happening here |
| 04:52:42 | <StarletCharlotte> | @OrIdow6: What do you mean by that? |
| 06:26:29 | <DigitalDragons> | https://irc.digitaldragon.dev/uploads/4f56d4750ebba570/IMG_3933.jpeg |
| 06:28:35 | <DigitalDragons> | Just got this email from IA's zendesk replying to a ticket I opened previously |
| 06:36:17 | <Flashfire42> | well fuck |
| 07:28:49 | <steering> | oof |
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| 09:57:11 | <Barto> | dayum |
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| 11:30:10 | <driib> | Also got the same email in response to the ticket I raised on the 9th about purl.org being down (hosts major semantic web ontology redirects). |
| 11:31:41 | <driib> | I really hope the IA team will kick the intruders for good soon :hugs: |
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| 11:47:25 | <Barto> | more funding for IA! |
| 11:51:38 | <q3k|m> | it's a shame IA doesn't hire remotely worldwide, or I'm sure plenty of competent people would love to join and help |
| 13:10:30 | <imer> | aha! so gitlab is the culprit |
| 13:13:15 | <imer> | q3k|m: pretty sure they do |
| 13:13:42 | <q3k|m> | imer: when i checked their careers page recently (back when it was up) they didn't which was a shame, as i was actually looking for a job |
| 13:15:17 | <Barto> | probably it's a mess in term of tax and laws |
| 13:16:31 | <q3k|m> | i mean i can understand the reasoning, but there's plenty of companies that are able to handle this. |
| 13:16:49 | <q3k|m> | not expecting change, i'm just saying it's a shame |
| 13:17:59 | <q3k|m> | anyway water under the bridge, pretty sure the last thing they want now is dealing with new hires :P |
| 13:27:19 | <imer> | ah, they were advertised as remote https://web.archive.org/web/20240903102803/https://app.trinethire.com/companies/32967-internet-archive/jobs/95269-website-software-engineer |
| 13:27:28 | <imer> | probably why my brain added world wide |
| 13:27:38 | <q3k|m> | yep |
| 13:28:34 | <imer> | could always try if you didnt though, might make exceptions for rhe right people |
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| 13:51:04 | <Barto> | there's also the issue of timezone, if you hire people from another continent, working hours will become complicated for teams meetings |
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| 14:17:08 | <imer> | as someone thats working on us time in europe: just work in their timezone, its not that complicated |
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| 15:31:17 | <katia> | q3k|m, i applied at least 2 times to the devops roles (from .nl though) and never heard back :< |
| 15:32:45 | <IDK> | job hunting in a nutshell |
| 15:33:30 | <IDK> | gotta write more appreciation posts on linkedin |
| 15:42:09 | <Barto> | it's only sales and HR on linkedin i said to a colleague not far away in the past |
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| 15:54:45 | <IDK> | tbh a wild theory, but I don't really think the hacker have much malicious intent |
| 15:55:22 | <IDK> | I have a feeling whatever this hack is just to demonstrate the flaws in their infrastructure |
| 15:56:07 | <IDK> | Considering how lax IA's security really is for today's standard (you used to be able to modify upload date / uploader with some inspect element before around 2021) |
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| 16:02:04 | <IDK> | I doubt they can afford a whole security operations department, so security issues are "temporarly" swept under the rug (probably forgotten) as the devs are working on future projects |
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| 16:25:50 | <eggdrop> | [tell] clarkk: [2024-02-14T16:17:07Z] <JAA> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexa_Internet?useskin=vector was founded by the same guy as IA and later acquired by Amazon, but there's no relation to the spyware devices you're probably thinking of. There's very little documentation about IA's crawling; your best bet is probably their blog. |
| 16:28:28 | <clarkk> | Is the "Save Page Now" function working atm? |
| 16:41:36 | <TheTechRobo> | No, IA is currently read-only following a data breach, see the maintenance page at https://archive.org |
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| 16:46:19 | <clarkk> | TheTechRobo, OK, thanks for the info |
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| 16:47:26 | <nulldata> | Another breach https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/internet-archive-breached-again-through-stolen-access-tokens/ |
| 16:48:21 | <IDK> | TheTechRobo: It's technically possible to run save page now, but you will just get "Job failed" or "HTTP=404" |
| 16:50:29 | <IDK> | It returns "The target server cannot find the requested resource https://example.com/ (HTTP status=404)." for some reason sometimes |
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| 17:37:10 | <f_> | :/ |
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| 17:51:50 | <pokechu22> | I haven't received an email yet, but it looks like the last time I emailed info@archive.org was Feb 2023 so if they were sending emails to the newest first I'd be fairly down on that list |
| 17:56:50 | <pokechu22> | Also, I donate to IA via a paycheck deduction through YourCause/Blackbaud Giving Fund. Have those been going through still? |
| 18:15:47 | <Doranwen> | I got a Zendesk email because I had an open ticket still. I think closed tickets aren't getting emails. |
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| 19:43:22 | <BornOn420> | Barto imer as someone working with colleagues in a different timezone, with proper handover it can also mean your staff makes 8 hour days, but the team 14 hour days. |
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| 19:56:17 | <Barto> | BornOn420++ |
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| 19:57:10 | <Barto> | so if you screw up something at 17:00, you're screwing the remote team for the 6 next hours. You cant tell yourself: i'll fix it tomorrow |
| 19:57:13 | <Barto> | been there, done that |
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| 19:57:20 | <Barto> | understood it the hard way :P |
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| 20:26:27 | <@JAA> | Oh wow, a !tell from February. lol |
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| 20:58:54 | <steering> | Barto: just be the only person who's competent, then you WILL fix it tomorrow because they sure won't :D |
| 20:59:28 | <steering> | <- works with UK & IE offices from US |
| 21:05:34 | <steering> | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41896115 lol |
| 21:05:49 | <steering> | > I believe that, at this point in time at least, IA's funding model consists of sweating profusely while awaiting a colossal legal judgement. |
| 21:11:19 | <Barto> | if you have a bus factor of 1, it's always a mess when you get on vacation |
| 21:15:37 | <steering> | mmhmm |
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