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00:20:00<Ryz>Okay, it's a new day; time to log into the Internet Archive and do some testing, mainly whether the problems have been cleared up o#o;
00:20:29<Ryz>Nice to see that just typing https://archive.org/login redirects to https://archive.org/account/login
00:21:28<Ryz>Daily captures has been reset back to 0, nice~
00:22:05<Ryz>Time to do the https://web.archive.org/save/somerandomURLhere thing while logged in, if it works
00:22:51<Ryz>It's going through, although oddly it doesn't seem to reflect that there's slots being used...?
00:23:23<Ryz>I just did 3 because that's the usual limit when doing it without an Internet Archive account
00:24:22<Ryz>One of the captures through that way is successful, although it doesn't reflect the number counting at all? Wha?
00:24:56<Ryz>JAA? Help...?
00:25:16<@JAA>No idea, I've never used SPN with an account.
00:25:57<Ryz>Anyone else...?
00:26:16<Ryz>nicolas17? pokechu22? Since you two queued me on the details and thoughts
00:26:44<pokechu22>I don't really use it without an account either
00:29:54<Ryz>Mmm, I did more than 3, like 4, and it hit the limit as if I was logged out... :/
00:31:23<Ryz>Sorry, not limit, but concurrency of saves~
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00:35:04<Ryz>Ugh, this is actually pretty disappointing... :c
00:35:41<pokechu22>Yeah, the account doesn't give you a higher concurrency limit, just a higher per-day limit IIRC
00:36:34<Ryz>But, the saves via https://web.archive.org/save/somerandomURLhere do not count towards the number when checking https://web.archive.org/save/status/user
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00:36:53<Ryz>Also, instead of 3, it's 7 per minute~
00:42:11<Ryz>Checking that I can archive 7 links in a moment
00:42:16<Ryz>Via logged in account
00:42:44<Ryz>Yes I can archive 7 links per minute~
00:43:19<Ryz>That might be dangerous though for websites that are too sensitive to do that...which is one of the reasons why I'm unlikely to use outlinks
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01:12:44<Ryz>I guess I could readjust with the additional concurrency when logged in, but I would want the convenience of tossing it in if possible :c
01:38:02<@JAA>My poor item's server still has no mate. :-(
01:43:05<fireonlive>:(
01:43:23<fireonlive>fireonlive 🤝🏻 JAA’s item’s server
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01:49:10<Nulo|m>hi, how can i download all archives of a set of pages (searching by prefix) off of the wayback machine? is this the right place to ask?
01:49:30<fireonlive>Nulo|m: ive used this before, not sure if it’s still good though: https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader
01:50:00<fireonlive>(originally via ruby directly then later via docker)
01:50:45<Nulo|m>fireonlive: sick, thanks
01:50:50<fireonlive>:)
01:52:06<Nulo|m>this is just what i wanted \o/
01:54:18<fireonlive>sweet! hope it works well
03:38:01<pabs>Ryz: an account with IA SPN2 also lets you save outlinks, which is very useful sometimes
03:39:02<Ryz>It can be useful, I don't wanna use too much of it because of making those websites get annoyed by the WBM SPN stuff if that makes sense ><;
03:39:06<pabs>oh, already discussed
03:39:16<pabs>ack
03:39:49<pabs>I tend to only use SPN2 for saving linkedin front pages of dead companies/people
03:39:58<pabs>(since AB can't do linkedin)
03:40:50<pabs>wayback-machine-downloader is definitely the best IA CDX client, after I fixed some things :)
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03:43:27<Ryz>Oh, huh, you can do that? Okay that is some neat information, yay~
03:44:08<Ryz>...Anyway, I still can't really do my thing that I usually do when it comes to archiving countless pages via WBM SPN :C
04:00:44<pabs>whats the reason for that?
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04:15:05<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>(replying to https://irclogs.archivete.am/internetarchive/2024-03-09#l8cf17971 ) Ryz: Directly going to https://web.archive.org/save/https://example.com/ and using the form at https://web.archive.org/save/ have separate rate limits, https://web.archive.org/save/status/user only shows the latter.
04:30:08<@JAA>1184/6112 [42:37<3:50:56, 2.81s/MiB]
04:30:10<@JAA>IA pls
04:50:19<Ryz>...There's separate limits? Uuuuuugh <#>;
05:37:41pabs lol
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07:23:45<@JAA>Hmm, I'm actually seeing other tasks running just fine on this server.
07:24:40<@JAA>Including the backup server sync and all.
07:35:37<@JAA>I poked it with a stick, and everything's fine now. It was only a VirusCheck task anyway. :-P
07:42:02<fireonlive>:P
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15:37:35<Ryz>It's a bit curious that when accessing https://web.archive.org/save/status/user while logged in, and while doing an archive via WBM SPN, that it hangs in the middle of it sometimes
15:41:01<Ryz>Oh yeah, I'm not sure on my feelings on the Internet Archive using Google reCAPTCHA when creating an account there; I wonder if it would be possible for them to switch to hCaptcha instead, a bit more thinking out loud kind of feeling~
15:42:37<Ryz>For those that use IA for archiving links via WBM SPN, is there a limit on how many outlinks it would grab?
15:44:18<Ryz>Because it looks like it's 40 max?
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16:32:10<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>According to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nsv52MvSjbLb2PCpHlat0gkzw0EvtSgpKHu4mk0MnrA/edit#heading=h.4rhr4a7v6a1q it's 100
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17:55:59<pokechu22>I think it might depend on the load; it definitely used to be 100 but then I've seen it be 70 or 50
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19:24:36<nicolas17>3737/4458 [5:01:19<1:13:57, 6.16s/MiB]
19:24:39<nicolas17>ia pls
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21:26:14<nicolas17>yay
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