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15:50:39 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | New wording on the "too many captures today" message: "This URL has been already captured 1 times today, which is a daily limit we have set for that host. Please try again tomorrow. Please email us at "info@archive.org" if you would like to discuss this more." |
17:04:42 | | fireonlive gets out the time vs times stick |
17:05:21 | | fireonlive would also find the time(s) workaround mostly acceptable |
17:19:19 | <nicolas17> | and this is only in english |
17:20:01 | <nicolas17> | Apple software tends to have a hundred combinatory-explosion strings to handle different cases, just in case some language needs to write them differently |
17:21:07 | <imer> | i18n is an absolute pain in the behind if you want to do it properly |
17:22:46 | <imer> | best way of solving it I've seen is have some sort of mini-scripting in the strings to be translated.. well, best for the programming side - not sure if it's great for the people doing translating, but I'm sure given training thats fine |
17:22:59 | <nicolas17> | KDE has that and it's not used much |
17:24:26 | <imer> | I forget where I've seen it, I could've sworn it was some mozilla library, but a quick google search doesn't bring anything up. (I've had the luxury of half-baked solutions being good enough so far) |
17:26:51 | <nicolas17> | for example |
17:27:36 | <nicolas17> | in the app store, an app can say "provides iPad, iPhone, and Mac apps" |
17:28:19 | <nicolas17> | there's several hundred strings for that, for all the possible combinations of platforms it could name |
17:28:24 | <imer> | ouch. |
17:28:26 | <nicolas17> | instead of concatenating the names |
17:28:41 | <nicolas17> | I'm sure they scripted it |
17:29:19 | <imer> | translate("Apps Provided:") + ", ".join(supported_platforms) :D |
17:29:41 | <nicolas17> | and translations also used some script to initially generate them |
17:30:00 | <nicolas17> | but then they went and fixed up a few that need a different "and" depending on the words around it |
17:30:04 | <nicolas17> | probably |
17:30:04 | <imer> | thats fair, there is some languages where gendered words matter a *lot* |
17:30:42 | <fireonlive> | can we all switch to one language :3 |
17:30:53 | <nicolas17> | in Spanish, "and" is "y" unless the word following starts with an i sound in which case it's "e" |
17:31:00 | <fireonlive> | and one timezone |
17:31:16 | <nicolas17> | but that never happens in this case because "iPhone" doesn't actually have an "i" sound at the beginning :P |
17:33:21 | <fireonlive> | :o |
17:34:07 | <nicolas17> | aɪfoʊn |
17:34:51 | <nicolas17> | imer: https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/tfMpO/strings.txt |
17:35:07 | <imer> | lovely |
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