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| 01:23:34 | <HP_Archivist> | As mentioned in #archivebot, I want to view the history of an account/page. I think it's prepended with https://catalogd.archive.org/ or something similar, but forget exactly |
| 01:24:21 | <TheTechRobo> | https://catalogd.archive.org/history/<ident> ? |
| 01:24:25 | <TheTechRobo> | e.g. https://catalogd.archive.org/history/@thetechrobo3641 for my account |
| 01:26:04 | <HP_Archivist> | Tried that, TheTechRobo. E.g. https://catalogd.archive.org/history/@archivist_goals (my account) doesn't show any history |
| 01:26:19 | <HP_Archivist> | I'm currently signed in, too |
| 01:30:18 | <@JAA> | Works for me with cookies set. |
| 01:31:55 | <HP_Archivist> | JAA: I see the 'item history' page but nothing is in the history. I have close to ~20K item uploads |
| 01:32:20 | <@JAA> | Item uploads wouldn't show up on the account history page, only changes to the account itself do. |
| 01:34:12 | <HP_Archivist> | Ah alright. Reason I ask because I noticed I had about 19,900 some uploads the other day and it's back down to 19,802 (when signed in). I was hoping I could see if some of my items were deleted by staff, or it's a bug |
| 01:38:34 | <@JAA> | I'm not aware of a 'list task history for all items uploaded by a user' thing. Best you can do is list all items and then check each item's task history. But that'll be as many requests as you have items... |
| 01:52:17 | <nicolas17> | https://archive.org/catalog.php?history=1&justme=1 I think this only shows changes that I triggered |
| 01:52:31 | <nicolas17> | so if staff deletes an item I uploaded, it won't appear, because the item is mine but the change wasn't done by me |
| 01:52:37 | <nicolas17> | worth a try tho |
| 01:53:05 | <@JAA> | Exactly |
| 01:53:13 | <@JAA> | It only lists tasks you submitted. |
| 01:58:22 | <@JAA> | Also, that page takes a very long time to load and often just breaks at some random point in the middle of the task list if you have many tasks. |
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| 02:49:06 | <HP_Archivist> | JAA: Thanks. I was thinking there was something like that. I won't even bother with list all items considering the number under my account. Only reason why staff would is if they felt that some of the archived YT videos weren't necessary. |
| 02:50:52 | <nicolas17> | JAA: how would you list all items though? |
| 02:51:51 | <nicolas17> | if you list all items and check their history, you'll get the history of your 19802 current items and still not know what the missing 98 are |
| 02:52:03 | <HP_Archivist> | Interestingly, the 'favorited' items history does show the history, if I'm looking at this right: https://archive.org/history/fav-archivist_goals |
| 02:52:28 | <@JAA> | catalog.php should in theory return all items for which you've ever submitted a task. Even if the item has been darked since. |
| 02:52:29 | <HP_Archivist> | *Have to be signed in, but it does show a log of favorited items under my account |
| 02:54:33 | <@JAA> | HP_Archivist: Yeah, favourites are a special collection that you can add items to. The item additions and removals happen via tasks. |
| 02:54:58 | <HP_Archivist> | JAA: Makes sense, thanks |
| 02:55:51 | <@JAA> | Which is different from how collections work otherwise, notably. |
| 02:56:04 | <@JAA> | Normally, you add the collection to the item, so it shows up in the item task history. |
| 02:56:25 | <@JAA> | (Or well, *you* don't except at upload time.) |
| 02:57:02 | <@JAA> | But favourites are special. |
| 02:57:44 | <HP_Archivist> | I think that's probably where I had the false memory/idea from, JAA, yeah. Probably from looking at the fav history, I had assumed something similar for item uploader under an account |
| 02:58:44 | <@JAA> | Right |
| 02:59:04 | <@JAA> | Favourites are the only thing I'm aware of that work like that. |
| 03:02:59 | <fireonlive> | everytime you favourite something some task is sent to a queue for some php script to run at a later time |
| 03:03:01 | <fireonlive> | t_t |
| 03:04:15 | <@JAA> | If it's stupid but it works... |
| 03:09:09 | <HP_Archivist> | fireonlive: Right. And I was thinking there was some log kept which accounted for all activity under an account, like item uploads, or when an item was darked, deleted, etc. Too bad there isn't a way to track that, per se |
| 04:02:05 | <TheTechRobo> | What I've never understood is that if favouriting is a task, why does it remember that you've favourited it if you've reloaded the cache before the task completes? |
| 04:02:23 | <TheTechRobo> | If there's some sort of special database, why make it a collection? |
| 04:03:04 | <@JAA> | It's probably similar to how metadata changes are visible immediately but still get changed by a task in the actual _meta.xml file. |
| 04:03:12 | <@JAA> | I.e. another layer on top of it to not confuse the user. |
| 04:49:54 | <@JAA> | > This page is unavailable for archiving. The server returned code: because page does not exist |
| 04:49:59 | <@JAA> | New error message for 404? |
| 05:42:10 | <fireonlive> | huh |
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| 18:07:00 | <HP_Archivist> | Welp. I now know what happened to those missing YouTube items; IA received a takedown notice from Global Image Works for a number of 'The Dick Cavett Show' videos I archived. |
| 18:07:16 | <HP_Archivist> | IA email a few minutes ago https://imgur.com/a/6AUIDit |
| 18:07:59 | <HP_Archivist> | "The above materials have been disabled." |
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| 19:07:49 | <fireonlive> | ah, lame :( |
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| 19:47:40 | <pokechu22> | https://web.archive.org/web/20240124073123/https://nitter.vloup.ch/RonDeSantis/status/1749159384112845285#m - playback on this doesn't seem to work despite the video parts having been download (see https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/202401240708062jcf3) |
| 19:47:49 | <pokechu22> | It seems like it's trying to download https://web-static.archive.org/_static/wombatWorkers.js and that doesn't exist? |
| 19:48:45 | | @JAA resets the 'days since WBM's scripts were broken' counter. |
| 19:50:41 | <@JAA> | It tries to play it back via HLS, and AB doesn't support that. |
| 19:51:46 | <@JAA> | I wonder what breaks it exactly though. |
| 19:51:52 | <@JAA> | And where the .m4s URLs came from. |
| 19:52:24 | <@JAA> | Oh, you !ao <'d that manually, right. |
| 19:54:16 | <@JAA> | Is it trying to install a Service Worker to intercept HLS segments? |
| 19:54:33 | <nicolas17> | checking |
| 19:56:45 | <nicolas17> | it seems so? |
| 20:01:04 | <pokechu22> | I guess that'd be needed if it doesn't rewrite https://web.archive.org/web/20240124065731/https://nitter.vloup.ch/video/4251EAB6136F5/https%3A%2F%2Fvideo.twimg.com%2Fext_tw_video%2F1749158114799054848%2Fpu%2Fpl%2FtKcNsuuGkomT7-Wx.m3u8%3Ftag%3D12%26container%3Dfmp4 |
| 20:29:31 | <HP_Archivist> | fireonlive: It is, but whaddya gonna do. At least they're disabled/darked. It's funny. Only other time I've had a Tubeup-video takedown happen was from 60 Minutes on a few of theirs. |
| 20:29:56 | <fireonlive> | oh 60 mins eh |
| 20:30:01 | <fireonlive> | hm |
| 20:30:09 | <fireonlive> | and yeah i guess eventually they'll see the light of day again |
| 20:30:33 | <HP_Archivist> | You'd think that 60 minutes wouldn't care, it's really CBS. And I'm sure they do. |
| 20:30:50 | <fireonlive> | ah yeah, copyright bots probably |
| 20:31:25 | <HP_Archivist> | On those, yeah. Global Image Works isn't some big corp though. https://www.globalimageworks.com/ |