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07:40:32<tomodachi94>If a public domain (1945) book is available for full download through Google Books, am I allowed to upload it to IA?
07:41:06<tomodachi94>It would be cool if I could make a full scan myself, but the nearest copy is at a library 400+ miles away from my current location
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07:48:21<tomodachi94>Oh, https://archive.org/details/googlebooks exists, so I should be fine in theory
08:59:59<audrooku|m>it's my understanding that legally the scan of a public domain work is a new work in and of itself, but with archival it's usually better to ask for forgiveness anyway
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16:02:00<@JAA>I'm not sure a scan satisfies the threshold of originality required for being copyrightable in the first place. But this would very much depend on jurisdiction. However, there's also an exception for preservation in most jurisdictions' copyright law. So the uploader should be fine from that perspective. IA's redistribution might not be, but yeah, better to ask for forgiveness there.
16:02:14<@JAA>Make sure to include the source in the item metadata if you do end up doing this.
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18:25:14<pokechu22>A lot of public domain stuff from google books is also on IA, though not everything (1945 is a bit more recent though; I assume that's one where copyright wasn't renewed)
18:26:13<pokechu22>see also https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-scan_tag#What_level_of_originality_is_needed_for_copyright_to_be_created?
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