00:02:28<fmlatghor>So, what happened to the old channel?
00:14:40<jodizzle>This channel and the rest of the AT channels moved to hackint because it's a more stable network.
00:15:00<jodizzle>Though there's some lingering disagreement about whether #internetarchive counts as an AT channel
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02:19:58<fmlatghor>jodizzle: wait, are you saying freenode isn't secure?
02:20:21<jodizzle>The old channel was on efnet, not freenode
02:34:22<fmlatghor>jodizzle: Oh wait you're right I went to the wrong channel
02:34:31<fmlatghor>Not wrong channel, I just confused servers
02:35:01<fmlatghor>Anyways is there a chance that I can get a page removed on archive.org? I deleted the upload and I want to get rid of the url so I can use it again.
02:35:29<fmlatghor>I was uploading an album I made and I deleted the upload because the tracks were out of order.
02:45:38<OrIdow6>You can email them and ask, but unless you have a good reason I'll guess it won't happen
02:45:58<@JAA>You can just upload again to the same item.
02:46:17<OrIdow6>Unless by "deleted the upload", you just mean removed the files?
02:46:21<OrIdow6>Yeah
02:47:17<OrIdow6>But if you darked it or something like that, I think you should probably move to a new identifier
02:48:09<fmlatghor>OrIdow6: By deleted I mean I removed it and it no longer exists in my library or publicly.
02:48:34<OrIdow6>What do you mean by "removed", and what do you mean by "it"?
02:48:41<fmlatghor>JAA: I know I can just reupload the files, but I wanted to use the same URL I had last time because I ilked the URL
02:49:05<fmlatghor>OrIdow6: https://help.archive.org/hc/en-us/articles/360028301112-Removing-your-item-pages-from-archive-org
02:49:16<fmlatghor>This is what I followed
02:50:51<OrIdow6>That darks them
02:51:20<fmlatghor>OrIdow6: What does that mean? Can I get it back then so I can use that URL?
02:51:36<fmlatghor>I mean like can I get back the dark page and delete all the old files and use that
02:51:38<@JAA>Oh, then you need to email info@archive.org and ask them to undark the item.
02:52:13<OrIdow6>Yeah
02:52:26<fmlatghor>JAA: I emailed them earlier to delete the page/URL lol. So are stuff not actually deleted on archive.org besides DMCA-takedowns?
02:53:00<@JAA>Officially, we don't know. Unofficially, we believe things are only ever darked.
02:53:27<@JAA>It's probably a 'we can neither confirm nor deny'-type situation for them.
02:54:14<fmlatghor>JAA: So should I want to get a reply from the first email or send them a new one asking them to undarken it?
02:54:18<fmlatghor>*wait
02:54:22<@JAA>What's the item?
02:54:31<fmlatghor>Music
02:54:56<@JAA>What's the item identifier (= its URL)?
02:55:25<@JAA>(Feel free to PM if you want.)
02:55:26<fmlatghor>https://archive.org/details/fmlatghor-hearing_feeling
02:55:31<fmlatghor>Nah it's fine
02:55:52<fmlatghor>This is just an ideal URL for me
02:55:59<@JAA>Yeah, you darked that about 3 hours ago.
02:56:05<fmlatghor>Yea
02:56:24<@JAA>I supose send them a follow-up email explaining the situation and asking them to undark.
02:56:34<fmlatghor>Ah alright thanks JAA
02:56:42<@JAA>(Reply to the previous email you sent so they're linked.)
02:59:20<fmlatghor>Done
03:00:30<fmlatghor>JAA: So the first time I asked them to delete it, the follow-up I asked them to undarken it. This should work, right?
03:01:29<@JAA>Assuming they see the emails together and you explained it in the second one, yeah, should. :-)
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08:50:16<kiska>I guess I can undark it, but yeah email info@
08:51:28<flashfire42>wait you can undark things?
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22:57:41<@arkiver>kiska: you can undark items?