| 00:26:00 | <balrog_> | SketchCow: re: WARC: http://code.google.com/p/theunarchiver/issues/detail?id=573 |
| 03:56:00 | <underscor> | I made a github repo discovery AMI, fwiw |
| 03:57:00 | <underscor> | ami-55fe733c |
| 03:57:00 | <underscor> | Request some t1.micro spot instances of it (5-10) for the spot price of 0.003/hr, and they'll auto-terminate once they've completed a job |
| 03:58:00 | <underscor> | Low-effort way to help if you have a spare dollar or two |
| 03:59:00 | <underscor> | (you can do 100 of them for ~35 cents, as an example) |
| 04:07:00 | <Coderjoe> | or set the spot bid higher so they don't die. you only pay the actual current spot price |
| 04:08:00 | <chronomex> | cool! |
| 04:08:00 | <closure> | seems like you want them to die, since that IP is useless for an hour? |
| 04:08:00 | <chronomex> | hm, using aws to run collectors of all sorts is an interesting idea |
| 04:09:00 | <chronomex> | fuck the cloud before it fucks you, yes? |
| 04:09:00 | <Coderjoe> | but... do i trust you enough to potentially have root access to something that costs me money? |
| 04:09:00 | <chronomex> | the ever popular "why are you punching yourself" game |
| 04:14:00 | <Coderjoe> | i mean, for all i know, you would start running a crapload of torrents on it |
| 04:17:00 | <chronomex> | yes, I am a total asshole |
| 04:21:00 | <godane> | so i got almost all episodes of dec 2010 of attack of the show |
| 04:21:00 | <godane> | episodes 9 and 14 are gone |
| 04:22:00 | <godane> | dec episodes 1, 3, 15 are different encodes that are not divx |
| 04:28:00 | <underscor> | Coderjoe: Yeah, they're designed to die automatically after they finish |
| 04:29:00 | <underscor> | Also, I didn't set the root password from whatever it is in the default Amazon linux AMI |
| 04:29:00 | <underscor> | (but I suppose you'd have to trust me to believe that) |
| 04:30:00 | <underscor> | Also, they have root ssh disabled anyway |
| 04:30:00 | <underscor> | and password login disabled too |
| 04:30:00 | <underscor> | also, I have no way of knowing when you use the AMI, so I don't know where it is |
| 04:30:00 | <Coderjoe> | but you could have changed it |
| 04:31:00 | <Coderjoe> | and you could have had it call home |
| 04:31:00 | <underscor> | True. I suppose you'd have to spin one up and check that I'm not lying. |
| 04:31:00 | <underscor> | They will terminate in ~1-4 minutes, though |
| 04:35:00 | <underscor> | chronomex: Yeah, it's an easy/cheap way to use a bunch of IPs for things that are low-bandwidth |
| 04:36:00 | <underscor> | I have a private AMI that runs squid whitelisted to RIT's subnet (and then reports themselves to a redis server, which adds them to a "proxy" list), for when I need to do similar things locally |
| 04:36:00 | <chronomex> | heh |
| 06:36:00 | <SketchCow> | Similarly, jscott shows one of the classic patterns that tended to destroy the values of that era. I've had times ("plain white background", natch) where my conviction over the rightness of an idea made me arrogant in the way that I advocated for it, and as a result the goal itself was lost to my hubris. |
| 06:36:00 | <SketchCow> | jscott exemplifies this -- he claims to care about archiving the web, and I'm sure that is a sincere part of his intention. But all of us who love the web try to fight linkrot. Only Jason thinks its his unique birthright and that it's somehow going to encourage people to preserve the web if he shits on those who try to do so. It's the same pattern: An arrogant advocate, steeped in technology but bad at human interaction, undoing his own goals thro |
| 06:36:00 | | SketchCow slow clap |
| 06:36:00 | | SketchCow faster clap |
| 06:36:00 | | SketchCow full on standing o |
| 06:57:00 | <BlueMax> | that guy seems to have a problem with prematurely ending his s |
| 07:01:00 | <underscor> | SketchCow: What's that from? |
| 07:18:00 | <chronomex> | BlueMax: that's cutoff. |
| 07:18:00 | <chronomex> | ofc. |
| 07:51:00 | <SketchCow> | jscott exemplifies this -- he claims to care about archiving the web, and I'm sure that is a sincere part of his intention. But all of us who love the web try to goekesmi fight linkrot. |
| 07:51:00 | <SketchCow> | Only Jason thinks its his unique birthright and that it's somehow going to encourage people to preserve the web if he shits on those who try to do so. godane It's the same pattern: An arrogant advocate, steeped in technology but bad at human interaction, undoing his own goals through antagonizing those he should be goekesmi |
| 07:51:00 | <SketchCow> | convincing. |
| 07:51:00 | <SketchCow> | (roughly) |
| 07:52:00 | <SketchCow> | It's a guy who I've been cold warring with for a while, but he finally snapped |
| 08:24:00 | <nitro2k01> | So what is he even complaining about? |
| 08:24:00 | <nitro2k01> | Why is it any of his business? Did he have shameful secrets about him archived? Did AT jack up his bandwidth bill? |
| 08:51:00 | <chronomex> | bitches gotta bitch |
| 08:51:00 | <chronomex> | else they wouldn't be bitches |
| 09:10:00 | <Nemo_bis> | SketchCow: you around? |
| 09:10:00 | <Nemo_bis> | I'd need you to delete all these items for me: https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22Tex+seconda+serie+gigante%22 |
| 09:11:00 | <Nemo_bis> | They've been created empty by iasuploader but now I've improved my metadata and I doubt the second upload will adjust it if they already exist |
| 09:11:00 | <Nemo_bis> | *ias3upload.pl |
| 09:19:00 | | Nemo_bis confirms that it doesn't |
| 09:40:00 | <underscor> | Nemo_bis: It should smash the metadata with the new stuff |
| 09:40:00 | <underscor> | We don't have an item delete button |
| 09:40:00 | <underscor> | It requires manual DB fixes by the ops team |
| 09:40:00 | <chronomex> | hah |
| 11:14:00 | <fpqc> | hm |
| 11:15:00 | <fpqc> | anybody here have lexisnexis access |
| 11:30:00 | <fpqc> | I'm looking for the entirety of the speech beginning on page 16 (432) of this pdf http://www.oup.com/us/pdf/highered/ggwch8 in its entirety |
| 11:30:00 | <fpqc> | the undelivered speech on the gold clause cases |
| 11:32:00 | <fpqc> | Joe Kennedy said that if FDR had delivered it, he wouldn't have been surpised if the public would burn the supreme court in effigy |
| 11:32:00 | <fpqc> | lol |
| 11:33:00 | <fpqc> | I have a lexisnexis address for it |
| 11:33:00 | <fpqc> | http://www.lexisnexis.com/us/lnacademic/frame.do?tokenKey=rsh-23.699935.4693056479&target=results_DocumentContent&reloadEntirePage=true&rand=1223252804529&returnToKey=20_T4737626527&parent=docview |
| 11:33:00 | <fpqc> | pulled it off some jerk's term paper |
| 11:38:00 | <ats> | I don't think that link's very helpful -- most of that is just session IDs, etc. |
| 11:38:00 | <ats> | (it just goes back to the search form on UK L-N, anyway) |
| 11:39:00 | <ats> | does the reference give a title or anything? |
| 11:41:00 | <fpqc> | It's listed in the FDR archives |
| 11:41:00 | <fpqc> | as 768 Proposed Gold Clause Speech |
| 11:41:00 | <fpqc> | in the master speech record |
| 11:42:00 | <fpqc> | http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/archives/pdfs/findingaids/findingaid_roos_masterspeechfile.pdf |
| 16:37:00 | <chazchaz> | Is the github-download-grab still ongoing? |
| 17:45:00 | <dashcloud> | this project looks interesting: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/garymcgath/files-that-last |
| 18:05:00 | <VonGuard> | holy shit sketchcow |
| 18:05:00 | <VonGuard> | i'm gonna strangle Sellam |
| 18:05:00 | <VonGuard> | that collection drove him insane! |
| 18:05:00 | <VonGuard> | there are 4 odyssey's there and 3 rifles for them |
| 18:05:00 | <VonGuard> | we gotta save that shit |
| 18:23:00 | <dashcloud> | so, what exactly are you talking about- got a link or something? |
| 18:31:00 | <VonGuard> | lol |
| 18:31:00 | <VonGuard> | vintage.org |
| 18:31:00 | <VonGuard> | being evicted |
| 18:31:00 | <VonGuard> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/2533384722/ |
| 18:31:00 | <VonGuard> | that warehouse is being scrapped |
| 18:41:00 | <dashcloud> | damn' |
| 18:41:00 | <VonGuard> | yeah |
| 18:41:00 | <chronomex> | D: why? |
| 18:41:00 | <VonGuard> | it's not goode |
| 18:41:00 | <VonGuard> | because Sellam is broke |
| 18:42:00 | <VonGuard> | and the landlord thinks it's all garbage |
| 18:42:00 | <chronomex> | oh. |
| 19:19:00 | <Nemo_bis> | I hate Twitter search. |
| 19:20:00 | <Nemo_bis> | How do I dump a whole account's tweets in some HTML or whatever page? |
| 19:22:00 | <Nemo_bis> | Trying http://pastebin.com/zK3ZYaS8 |
| 19:25:00 | <Nemo_bis> | It doesn't seem to work. |
| 19:31:00 | <Nemo_bis> | Sigh, the best is googling with site: |
| 19:43:00 | <Nemo_bis> | I still din't find SketchCow's ISO creation wondermachine photos. Oh well. |
| 19:43:00 | <Nemo_bis> | I wonder what's the purpose of packaging archive.org stuff in homemade torrents like this http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7790414/OMNI_Magazine_1978--1995 |
| 19:48:00 | <SketchCow> | I see VonGuard is gone already? |
| 19:59:00 | <SketchCow> | Nice. |
| 20:06:00 | <SketchCow> | "Hi, everyone, you have absolutely no details about any of this situation but I'm going to go full-on-postal on it" |
| 20:11:00 | <Ymgve> | Nemo_bis: maybe someone doesn't trust archive.org to be around |
| 20:12:00 | <SketchCow> | On the initial level, they're right to do it - we already took a couple issues down due to Harlan Ellison |
| 20:12:00 | <SketchCow> | But since the original source of this WAS a torrent, and THAT has ALL the issues, then they're silly |
| 20:13:00 | <Nemo_bis> | Not only that, he also converted them to some idiotic format. :D |
| 20:13:00 | <SketchCow> | But there's no linkage from the original archive.org items saying what torrent it came from, so of course they don't know that, and not everyone has the clarity to research. |
| 20:13:00 | <Ymgve> | it's piratebay, what else would you expect |
| 20:14:00 | <SketchCow> | I'm just explaining why they did that. |
| 20:14:00 | <SketchCow> | I expect it'll keep happening now and then |
| 20:18:00 | <SketchCow> | So, nemo |
| 20:18:00 | <SketchCow> | Do you TRY to be a needler? |
| 20:18:00 | <SketchCow> | I always wondered if this was a european thing. Europeans do it |
| 20:18:00 | <Zebranky> | SketchCow: Saw the letter@ tweet. Don't know if the letter-writer needs any particular credentials, but I can do it. |
| 20:18:00 | <SketchCow> | Like, maybe that's just how things are spoken, and it's like an accent, and I should ignore it. |
| 20:19:00 | <SketchCow> | E-mail me |
| 20:21:00 | <Nemo_bis> | SketchCow: I doubt it's an European thing, it's just me I think. :-) What did I do wrong this time? |
| 20:21:00 | <SketchCow> | My theory is when I see over 100 europeans do it over the course of 10 years, it's a european thing |
| 20:22:00 | <Nemo_bis> | Europeans feel the same about me, so probably not in this case. |
| 20:22:00 | <Nemo_bis> | But yes, might be a factor, who knows. |
| 20:22:00 | <SketchCow> | Well, no, I think you do it to each other, and it's OK |
| 20:22:00 | <Nemo_bis> | ahah |
| 20:23:00 | <SketchCow> | But in the US, if you go "So, when you finally show some progress on X ;)" the ;) actually translates to "You are a fuck" |
| 20:23:00 | <Nemo_bis> | I ensure you Europeans feel the same about USA |
| 20:23:00 | <Nemo_bis> | Ah |
| 20:23:00 | <SketchCow> | You are, I am sure, completely aware of how busy I am and that I am in fact getting a lot done. |
| 20:24:00 | <Nemo_bis> | Needless to say. |
| 20:24:00 | <SketchCow> | And I am prioritizing highest return on smallest personal effort, so the most things get done. |
| 20:24:00 | <Nemo_bis> | Really, it was just a way to help me find that post again |
| 20:24:00 | <SketchCow> | So I've been adding piles and piles of magazines and materials from already extant scanning projects, because those are done. Same with CD-ROM ISOs and audio and other things. |
| 20:24:00 | <Nemo_bis> | Because twitter's search is so horrible. |
| 20:25:00 | <SketchCow> | So at some point, I will go from having none of your CD-ROMs online to all of them online |
| 20:33:00 | <SketchCow> | So writing that you're waiting on sending me the next batch until I show action on the current batch is relatively short sighted. |
| 20:35:00 | <SketchCow> | Oh, and then posting something on my flickr stream under a photo I had of some CD-ROMs, also demanding to know the status. Not cool. |
| 20:35:00 | <SketchCow> | Especially since... news flash... that's not my CDs |
| 20:39:00 | <Nemo_bis> | I wasn't "demanding to know the status". :-O |
| 20:40:00 | <SketchCow> | "How many of those do you still have to rip and put on archive.org? :)" |
| 20:40:00 | <Nemo_bis> | That's because I expect them to be very few. |
| 20:41:00 | <Nemo_bis> | And asking a question is not "demanding" something |
| 20:41:00 | <SketchCow> | Again, the :) |
| 20:41:00 | <SketchCow> | 14:34 <@SketchCow> Do you TRY to be a needler? |
| 20:41:00 | <SketchCow> | This is why I was asking. |
| 20:41:00 | <SketchCow> | I decided that maybe you didn't know you were doing this. |
| 20:42:00 | <Nemo_bis> | As I said, it's involuntary |
| 20:42:00 | <Nemo_bis> | And no, I'm not waiting on anything to send you more stuff. |
| 20:43:00 | <Nemo_bis> | I only had some problems with our post company bureaucracy, I spent 6 hours in the village of their hub near the airport that day. :D |
| 20:44:00 | <SketchCow> | Man, you must live in some really crazy village |
| 20:45:00 | <Nemo_bis> | The posts are crazy |
| 20:47:00 | <Nemo_bis> | That's why now that I learnt I want to ship as much stuff as possible, to have make those hours worth it. ^^ |
| 21:08:00 | <Nemo_bis> | "They haven't made any torrents available, and their archive is a little hard to read because you have to pick through the whole run of the magazine in reverse chronological order. So, I downloaded all of the PDFs and packed them into a single torrent." |
| 21:43:00 | <Nemo_bis> | Hmm ias3upload.pl is actually expected *not* to keep existing metadata |
| 21:43:00 | <Nemo_bis> | my $keepExistingMetadata = 0; |
| 21:47:00 | <SketchCow> | 26 Creative Computing Magazines now uploaded. |
| 21:49:00 | <DFJustin> | very cool |
| 21:50:00 | <DFJustin> | ahl's "BASIC Computer Games" was my first exposure to programming, but the magazine itself was gone before my time |
| 22:09:00 | <SketchCow> | Yeah, you should read them, they're vastly superior things. |
| 22:10:00 | <SketchCow> | Like I've been saying like a broken record - there's NO reason for this to have been left behind like it has. |
| 22:53:00 | <alard> | http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-github-repository-index-201212 |
| 23:17:00 | <soultcer> | It's amazing what you can achieve when you have a couple hosts from different IPs willing to execute any command you throw at them :D |
| 23:24:00 | <Baljem> | good grief, the github grab's made some progress since I left for dinner. nice work. |
| 23:37:00 | <Nemo_bis> | uuh illegal characters flood https://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=135849784 |