| 03:27:00 | <ivan`> | http://www.glitch.com/closing/ |
| 03:38:00 | <joepie91> | ivan`: interesting how their FAQ contains "why not open-source it" but that question is never actually answered in the answer section.. |
| 03:58:00 | <ivan`> | joepie91: usually it's because the code is a mess and it would take months to clean up and document how to get it running |
| 03:59:00 | <ivan`> | the answer makes it sound like they're doing a lot of manual operations work |
| 04:04:00 | <joepie91> | ivan`: honestly, that shouldn't matter |
| 04:04:00 | <joepie91> | a messy release is better than no release |
| 04:04:00 | <joepie91> | can't see why they can't release the code "as is" |
| 04:04:00 | <joepie91> | with no guarantees etc etc |
| 04:05:00 | <Aranje> | people that are dedicated will dive right in |
| 04:05:00 | <Aranje> | "our system is too complex for you" has always been a piss-poor excuse |
| 04:10:00 | <chronomex> | or they sucked some non-free code in years ago and they don't want to be pilloried for it |
| 04:10:00 | <Aranje> | that's probably the larger actual risk |
| 04:10:00 | <Aranje> | Too big of a "gosh, I hope we didn't infringe anyone's patents" |
| 04:13:00 | <NovaKing> | actually, usually when something has a server end, that wasn't designed with open-source in mind, is pretty freaking hard to just "here you go, have fun!" |
| 04:16:00 | <ivan`> | indeed, sometimes the system depends on a bunch of configuration and scripts that aren't even versioned |
| 04:17:00 | <NovaKing> | i can confirm this is the case waaaayyyy more often than you might think :P |
| 04:18:00 | <Aranje> | hahaha :P |
| 05:35:00 | <lemonkey> | so |
| 05:35:00 | <lemonkey> | mortgage rates are crazy low right now |
| 05:35:00 | <lemonkey> | oops |
| 06:55:00 | <SketchCow> | Hi. |
| 06:56:00 | <SketchCow> | Yeah, so Glitch. |
| 07:21:00 | <SketchCow> | We want the website, obviously. |
| 09:23:00 | <lemonkey> | http://www.glitch.com/closing/ |
| 09:23:00 | <lemonkey> | oh nevermind |
| 09:24:00 | <lemonkey> | the batsign has already gone up |
| 09:48:00 | <WOOHOO> | join irc 66.23.235.245 #go |
| 10:07:00 | <SmileyG> | WOOPOO. |
| 11:46:00 | <frame_at> | anybody got any experience with archiving tweets? Sure, I could simply write my own api client and store the data, but I guess this already exists. |
| 11:48:00 | <SketchCow> | Like, just archiving them in general? From the stream? |
| 11:56:00 | <frame_at> | archiving your own timeline (your posts + the ones from your friends) |
| 11:57:00 | <frame_at> | https://github.com/gcolpart/twitter-backup I'm looking at this right now |
| 12:18:00 | <void__> | some months i saw here a script (on gist.github) using an ipv6 tunnel broker to do some query to google |
| 12:18:00 | <void__> | anyone bookmarked it? maybe it was related to geocities |
| 12:23:00 | <godane> | good news on the archiving attack of the show episodes |
| 12:24:00 | <godane> | i got most of november 2011 and december 2011 |
| 12:26:00 | <godane> | SketchCow: I saved this earyer in the week: http://archive.org/details/BBC_Schools_Progs_VHSRip |
| 12:27:00 | <godane> | i know you want 1 video per a item but cause i wanted to save the orignal nfo i uploaded all has 1 item |
| 12:28:00 | <godane> | also it was removed quickly just like what video game item i uploaded earyer this month |
| 12:28:00 | <godane> | or last month |
| 12:29:00 | <SketchCow> | OK. |
| 12:33:00 | <godane> | i'm uploaded g4 ces 2009 live day 1 |
| 12:34:00 | <godane> | items name is going to be G4.CES.2009.Live.Day.1.DSR.XviD-SYS |
| 12:35:00 | <godane> | i'm even uploading the nzb, nfo, sfv, and simple video for you |
| 12:35:00 | <godane> | *sample video |
| 12:50:00 | <SmileyG> | https://archive.org/details/RedfishMagazine - downloaded 31 times? I feel like I've done some good \o/ |
| 13:12:00 | <godane> | looks like i only have 1 magazine that needs admin help now |
| 13:12:00 | <godane> | :-D |
| 13:13:00 | <godane> | also i uploaded this 2 days ago: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-linuxformatmagazine-165 |
| 16:58:00 | <Nemo_bis> | https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Offsite_Backups |
| 17:05:00 | <norbert79> | Nemo_bis: SSL certificate expired last year for that site... Just saying :) |
| 17:09:00 | <Nemo_bis> | norbert79: it's self-signed anyway |
| 17:10:00 | <SketchCow> | Anyone have an interest in doing metadata for a small stack of software unprotection manuals I'm uploading? |
| 17:13:00 | <norbert79> | SketchCow: Busy at the moment, maybe a few hours later |
| 20:05:00 | <godane> | i'm on windows getting theblaze tv stuff |
| 22:03:00 | <Coderjoe> | http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/sad-news-glitch-is-shutting-d.html |
| 22:45:00 | <ZoeB> | Pete Namlook's died. His site is at http://www.namlook.de/ . What's the best way to do this? |
| 22:45:00 | <ZoeB> | I've gone to liveweb.archive.org and given that the main URL but I don't know if it'll spider it |
| 22:45:00 | <ZoeB> | I can use wget with the warc option myself, but I'm guessing there's a better way? |
| 22:45:00 | <chronomex> | that's the best |
| 22:46:00 | <ZoeB> | OK, I'll do that now, thanks... |
| 22:47:00 | <ZoeB> | well that was quick. small site. thank you! |
| 22:48:00 | <chronomex> | hahah, already? |
| 22:48:00 | <ZoeB> | "Downloaded: 347 files, 2.3M in 4.1s (573 KB/s)" |
| 22:48:00 | <chronomex> | what did you invoke wget as? |
| 22:49:00 | <ZoeB> | wget -mbc --warc-file=namlook --warc-cdx http://www.namlook.de/ |
| 22:49:00 | <chronomex> | looks good to me |
| 22:52:00 | <ZoeB> | looking at a random HTML file it looks good too. has handwritten comments by him and everything. |
| 22:52:00 | <ZoeB> | thank you so much! |
| 22:53:00 | | ZoeB breathes a sigh of relief |
| 22:53:00 | <chronomex> | :D |
| 22:53:00 | <chronomex> | now, you upload it to archive.org |
| 22:54:00 | <chronomex> | :) |
| 22:55:00 | <ZoeB> | just as a regular upload or is there a special wayback machine friendly way? |
| 22:56:00 | <chronomex> | just a regular upload should be fine, we can stash it in http://archive.org/details/archiveteam somewhere |
| 22:56:00 | <chronomex> | probably in http://archive.org/details/archiveteam-fire |
| 23:05:00 | <ZoeB> | OK, let me see if I can figure this out again... archive.org's very web 1.0! |
| 23:05:00 | <chronomex> | yup! |
| 23:05:00 | <chronomex> | it's the best |
| 23:06:00 | <ZoeB> | "To begin, click on the share button!" :click: "No, the other share button!" |
| 23:06:00 | <chronomex> | web 1.0 is coming back into style |
| 23:06:00 | <chronomex> | oh, yeah, the share button thing is weird. |
| 23:06:00 | <ZoeB> | I like the lack of comments, it's just the user friendliness that needs an upgrade :) |
| 23:07:00 | | chronomex nods quietly |
| 23:07:00 | <ZoeB> | :P comments here are fine! |
| 23:08:00 | <chronomex> | I think IA has comments, they're called "reviews" |
| 23:10:00 | <ZoeB> | oh, yes, I forgot |
| 23:11:00 | <ZoeB> | so it's just the bad interface part then... kinda like e2 |
| 23:11:00 | <DFJustin> | there's a more web 2.0 version in testing at https://archive.org/upload/ |
| 23:12:00 | <underscor> | ZoeB: Yeah, the one DFJustin is the "new" uploader |
| 23:12:00 | <underscor> | We just haven't quite pushed it officially live yet. |
| 23:13:00 | <ZoeB> | oh, you work at the IA? |
| 23:13:00 | <ZoeB> | perhaps I should extol its finer points for balance :D |
| 23:14:00 | <ZoeB> | really, it's a great service to humanity. it's only the interface I don't like, the concept and the fact that people actually did it are both wonderful |
| 23:14:00 | <DFJustin> | iirc that new one had a bug where it didn't strip spaces from filenames, which IA's system hates |
| 23:14:00 | <ZoeB> | OK, here it is: http://archive.org/details/TheWww.namlook.deWebsite |
| 23:15:00 | <chronomex> | cool |
| 23:16:00 | <underscor> | ZoeB: Both SketchCow and I work for IA |
| 23:16:00 | <underscor> | But we're not part of #archiveteam in any official capacity |
| 23:17:00 | <ZoeB> | well I'm thankful that the site exists, it's an invaluable service. sorry about the nitpicking of the specifics |
| 23:19:00 | <ZoeB> | OK, it's late and I must sleep. thank you all for helping me preserve this tiny bit of history! :) |