| 00:05:00 | <godane> | i found a few x-play episodes from july 2009 |
| 00:21:00 | <godane> | i think i found the jackpot of xplay episodes |
| 00:21:00 | <godane> | just know these may not be the best versions of them |
| 00:21:00 | <godane> | some are made for psp |
| 00:23:00 | <SketchCow> | WEBSHOTS UP TO FULL SPEED |
| 00:23:00 | <SketchCow> | FIRE THAT SHIT UP |
| 00:24:00 | <SketchCow> | EVER'BODY |
| 00:30:00 | <flaushy> | great news \o/ |
| 02:48:00 | <SketchCow> | alard: So we're done with btinternet? |
| 02:51:00 | <dashcloud> | so, I'm downloading this: http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5262999/Kodak_Easyshare_Siterip |
| 02:52:00 | <SketchCow> | http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2012/11/06/italy-gets-a-planet-probe-part-1/ |
| 03:01:00 | <dashcloud> | that's awesome |
| 03:08:00 | <nintendud> | Nice |
| 03:33:00 | <dashcloud> | hi folks- I'm getting ridiculously low download speeds on the torrent listed above- can anyone give it a shot and see if they get more than 10 KB/s download speed on it? |
| 03:33:00 | <balrog> | the uploader might have a very limited upload speed |
| 03:34:00 | <balrog> | just stick it in your client and leave it for several days |
| 04:23:00 | <fpqc> | archive teaam |
| 04:23:00 | <fpqc> | I finished fixing up tha scan |
| 04:23:00 | <fpqc> | *that |
| 04:24:00 | <fpqc> | have anyplace for me to upload the tiffs |
| 04:27:00 | <fpqc> | I'm also making the djvu |
| 04:27:00 | <fpqc> | this old chap: http://archive.org/details/TheAgeOfRooseveltThePoliticsOfUpheaval |
| 04:29:00 | <SketchCow> | Create http://archive.org/details/TheAgeOfRooseveltThePoliticsOfUpheaval-fixd |
| 04:29:00 | <SketchCow> | fixed |
| 04:29:00 | <SketchCow> | upload |
| 04:38:00 | <fpqc> | compiling the djvu |
| 04:38:00 | <fpqc> | do I need to log in or anything? |
| 04:40:00 | <DFJustin> | archive.org can't convert from djvu |
| 04:40:00 | <fpqc> | I have the tiffs as well |
| 04:41:00 | <fpqc> | I'm making the djvu for my own use |
| 04:41:00 | <DFJustin> | put those in a zip and name it whatever_images.zip |
| 04:41:00 | <fpqc> | they''re b&w tiffs |
| 04:41:00 | <fpqc> | where |
| 04:41:00 | <fpqc> | where do you want me to put it =.= |
| 04:41:00 | <DFJustin> | you'll want to create an archive.org account and then you can upload it to your own item |
| 04:42:00 | <fpqc> | if I put it on mediafire can you just do it |
| 04:42:00 | <DFJustin> | it's no more difficult than uploading it to mediafire |
| 04:42:00 | <fpqc> | false |
| 04:42:00 | <fpqc> | because I do not have an account |
| 04:42:00 | <underscor> | it is like a 1 minute process |
| 04:42:00 | <fpqc> | yeah but I'm lazy enough not to want to do it |
| 04:42:00 | <DFJustin> | how do people use the internet and not have muscle memory for creating a website account |
| 04:42:00 | <underscor> | screenname, email, terms and conditions |
| 04:43:00 | <fpqc> | yeah but then I have to confirm my email address |
| 04:43:00 | <fpqc> | which is annoying |
| 04:43:00 | <DFJustin> | but yes if you're a lazy sod there are lots of people here with accounts |
| 04:44:00 | <DFJustin> | ;) |
| 04:44:00 | <fpqc> | okay |
| 04:44:00 | <fpqc> | I edited it for my own purposes =p |
| 04:45:00 | <fpqc> | so if the issue was pressed I was going to just be like |
| 04:45:00 | <fpqc> | "fine then i won't upload it" because I'm spiteful |
| 04:50:00 | <DFJustin> | http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2012/11/06/italy-gets-a-planet-probe-part-2/ |
| 04:52:00 | <fpqc> | also |
| 04:52:00 | <fpqc> | how is this book public domain? |
| 04:52:00 | <fpqc> | it was published in the 60s, so I would think it wouldn't be |
| 04:52:00 | <fpqc> | did the schlesinger family just forget to renew it? |
| 04:54:00 | <fpqc> | http://www.mediafire.com/?babb18xuaa4c6ch |
| 04:54:00 | <fpqc> | DFJustin |
| 04:54:00 | <DFJustin> | a lot of stuff wasn't renewed |
| 04:54:00 | <fpqc> | there's the pages |
| 05:43:00 | <SketchCow> | Wow. |
| 05:43:00 | <SketchCow> | OK. |
| 05:44:00 | <SketchCow> | So did I just see 40+ lines of absolute horseshit in #archiveteam |
| 05:44:00 | <SketchCow> | That consists, oh, 100% of "help me upload a file to Internet Archive"? |
| 05:44:00 | <SketchCow> | Tellme I saw something else. |
| 05:45:00 | <underscor> | Nope, that's pretty much it. |
| 05:45:00 | <underscor> | =/ |
| 05:45:00 | <SketchCow> | yes, yes I did. |
| 05:45:00 | <SketchCow> | I'll keep him in -bs where he belongs. |
| 05:45:00 | <SketchCow> | NEGATIVE contribution |
| 05:46:00 | <SketchCow> | Actually sucking AWAY productivity |
| 05:46:00 | <underscor> | sluuuuurp |
| 07:33:00 | <chronomex> | haha |
| 08:17:00 | <BlueMaxim> | http://www.ybbot.com/ |
| 08:17:00 | <BlueMaxim> | just stumbled across this |
| 08:17:00 | <BlueMaxim> | may want to archive it |
| 08:28:00 | <godane> | i'm downloading it |
| 08:52:00 | <norbert79> | How do you guys archive PHP based webpages? |
| 09:07:00 | <GLaDOS> | norbert79: You can only grab the HTML content it provides to you, unless the site owner gives you a copy of the script. |
| 09:07:00 | <norbert79> | GLaDOS: So the same method I would have chosen |
| 09:10:00 | <GLaDOS> | Yeah, pretty much. |
| 09:59:00 | <alard> | SketchCow: Yes, btinternet is done. |
| 10:00:00 | <alard> | (It's actually not done, but it's dead. Everything is uploaded to fos.) |
| 14:18:00 | <SketchCow> | Right. |
| 14:18:00 | <SketchCow> | Well, we tried. |
| 14:18:00 | <SketchCow> | It's just obscure! |
| 14:29:00 | <norbert79> | SketchCow: Just out ofm curiosity: Where do you put all the archived files to? And one more: did you had a chance taking a look at the CD-ROMS I uploaded? :) |
| 14:39:00 | <SketchCow> | Which archived files? |
| 14:39:00 | <SketchCow> | I didn't browse your CDs, just classify them into a collection. |
| 14:40:00 | <norbert79> | SketchCow: The archived stuff you save with archiveteam |
| 14:40:00 | <norbert79> | SketchCow: Oh, I see... I just wondered, since textfiles.com didn't had my CD-s yet, was just curious |
| 14:41:00 | <SketchCow> | archive.org does. |
| 14:42:00 | <SketchCow> | http://archive.org/details/cdbbsarchive |
| 14:43:00 | <norbert79> | Oh, nice |
| 14:43:00 | <SketchCow> | alard: May I pack up the bt internet? |
| 14:43:00 | <alard> | Yes, I think everything is on fos. |
| 14:48:00 | <norbert79> | SketchCow: So my CD's were uploaded here then, right? |
| 14:52:00 | <SketchCow> | Yes. |
| 14:52:00 | <norbert79> | SketchCow: Interesting, I seem failing finding them |
| 14:53:00 | <SketchCow> | They're there. |
| 14:53:00 | <norbert79> | Alright, I will look closer, looks like I fail finding them only... Can I also extend any of these entries? |
| 14:53:00 | <norbert79> | Would be easier adding them from my side instead of bugging you |
| 14:53:00 | <norbert79> | Oh, upload button top rioght |
| 14:54:00 | <norbert79> | ignore my question |
| 15:03:00 | <SketchCow> | I'm packing up the btinternet |
| 15:03:00 | <SketchCow> | But this time I'm being smart - all megawarcs will be 10gb |
| 15:21:00 | <SketchCow> | https://twitter.com/archiveteam/status/265835630091722752 |
| 15:22:00 | <SketchCow> | https://twitter.com/archiveteam/status/265836303210397697 |
| 15:22:00 | <mistym> | 82 gigabytes. God that cost BT *so* much. Can see why they had to delete them. |
| 15:23:00 | <norbert79> | Luckily it has been saved |
| 15:26:00 | <Ymgve> | I don't know if it was 100% of all the accounts tho, or did they have some easy-to-guess usernames? |
| 15:26:00 | <SketchCow> | We got everything google had linked to. |
| 15:26:00 | <SketchCow> | Which definitely, in my mind, meant we got culturally relevant ones. |
| 15:26:00 | <SketchCow> | I am sure we've missed a bunch, of course. |
| 15:26:00 | <SketchCow> | But these were ones people were using and linking to. |
| 15:31:00 | <alard> | We *didn't* get everything Google linked to, actually. Our Google-scraping efficiency has gone down, so with more time we would have found more usernames. But you could say that we have the ones that are easy to find. |
| 15:31:00 | <SketchCow> | I'm sorry we didn't work hard enough! |
| 15:32:00 | <SketchCow> | Next time, be more insistent |
| 15:32:00 | <SketchCow> | Insistent gets results! |
| 15:32:00 | | SketchCow punches a random archive team member |
| 15:33:00 | <SketchCow> | Look at that result! |
| 15:33:00 | | SketchCow grave later whizzed on |
| 15:33:00 | <alard> | We need to find a better way to search for usernames without getting blocked. :) |
| 15:34:00 | <nitro2k01> | Put on seven condoms |
| 15:34:00 | <norbert79> | alard: Well, one solution could be asking BT nicely |
| 15:34:00 | <norbert79> | alard: to list the names for us |
| 15:35:00 | <Ymgve> | bribe some google employee |
| 15:37:00 | <underscor> | alard: Even with the /64 hopping? |
| 15:38:00 | <alard> | That's the problem: it no longer works. |
| 15:38:00 | <alard> | They fixed it. |
| 15:39:00 | <alard> | You hop a few times and they say "we've seen automatic traffic from your network" and block your subnet. |
| 15:39:00 | <SketchCow> | Well, sounds like we need to make a warrior process. |
| 15:39:00 | <SketchCow> | ;) |
| 15:40:00 | <underscor> | Oh, damn, they block at the /56 as well now? |
| 15:40:00 | <underscor> | Ouch :( |
| 15:41:00 | <alard> | Perhaps we could make something distributed, so many people can crawl at a slow pace. |
| 15:41:00 | <SketchCow> | Exactly. |
| 15:41:00 | <SketchCow> | I vote we do that. |
| 15:41:00 | <SketchCow> | Warriors doing slow crawls. |
| 15:50:00 | <alard> | norbert79: We could have tried that, but I doubt it would have worked. (Would you want your provider giving your name to random strangers?) |
| 15:51:00 | <alard> | Aside: there seem to be some IRC delays. The order of messages I see is much different from the order I see here http://badcheese.com/~steve/atlogs/?chan=archiveteam&day=2012-11-06 |
| 15:52:00 | <alard> | I still haven't received SketchCow's suggestion to use the warrior, for instance. |
| 15:52:00 | <norbert79> | alard: If the contents would be erased anyhow, and we want to save the material from the "outside", does it make a difference? What is not to be accessed won't be saved... |
| 15:55:00 | <SketchCow> | Weird. |
| 15:55:00 | <SketchCow> | Dude, no idea. |
| 15:56:00 | <alard> | norbert79: Well, it would surprise me if BT would simply hand over a list of their customer's usernames (because that's what would be needed). |
| 15:58:00 | <norbert79> | Nowadays nothing would surprise mew :) |
| 15:58:00 | <norbert79> | -w |
| 15:58:00 | <nitro2k01> | Pretend that you're from a big record label and say you want to sue absolutely every customer using their service. |
| 15:59:00 | <nitro2k01> | You'll get the names in no time |
| 16:01:00 | <alard> | One problem I'd have with putting this on the warrior is that it would turn your warrior from something relatively harmless to something that gets you blocked on Google. |
| 16:02:00 | <balrog> | doesn't google start to captcha if they're suspicious? |
| 16:03:00 | <alard> | Yes, I think so. |
| 16:04:00 | <alard> | With scary warnings. |
| 16:04:00 | <balrog> | what are their rate limits? |
| 16:05:00 | <balrog> | what if you had each warrior query just one or two pages of results and then send them to a central server? |
| 16:07:00 | <SketchCow> | Right, that's what I am proposing. |
| 16:07:00 | <SketchCow> | Warrior does an occasional search. |
| 16:08:00 | <balrog> | make sure the occasional search has a random time-delta and isn't periodic since they may sense that too |
| 16:08:00 | <balrog> | well, is periodic but not regularly â something like wget's random-wait |
| 17:35:00 | <SmileyG> | hmmm google do capta yup |
| 17:36:00 | <SmileyG> | had them blocking the office at work for some reason :( |
| 17:48:00 | <SketchCow> | The BT Internet pages are being uploaded. |
| 17:54:00 | <SketchCow> | I include their shutdown faq, which has the awesome line of it being "only a few remaining customers". |
| 17:54:00 | <SketchCow> | 11,500+ |
| 17:59:00 | <chronomex> | I bet most of those aren't customers any more |
| 18:00:00 | <Ymgve> | Sure? I thought it was normal practice to delete the pages when someone terminates their contract |
| 18:00:00 | <Ymgve> | to "punish" them |
| 18:02:00 | <chronomex> | dunno |
| 19:08:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | http://web.archive.org/web/20030115200303/http://home.clara.net/cjpinder/download.htm <- i've noticed a lot of "the server hosting that file is down. bummer." messages from archive.org recently... |
| 19:08:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | trying to get the elite: the new kind source code from cjpinder's site since david braben cease-and-desisted him from hosting it by 2004 |
| 19:08:00 | <balrog> | yeah, that happens at times |
| 19:09:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | braben and bell have a long running spat between them about who owns the rights to the elite series |
| 19:09:00 | <balrog> | it's not on IA though |
| 19:09:00 | <balrog> | (the source) |
| 19:09:00 | <underscor> | Lord_Nigh: The thumper that that is on is probably down |
| 19:09:00 | <underscor> | They are very unreliable |
| 19:09:00 | <underscor> | We're working on moving them off onto the v4 boxes |
| 19:09:00 | <underscor> | which will make them a lot more accessible |
| 19:10:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | braben just started a kickstarter to rerelease elite; i havent heard bell's opinion on it yet... |
| 19:10:00 | <underscor> | (unreliable = goes down a lot, they' |
| 19:10:00 | <underscor> | re fine for data storage) |
| 19:10:00 | <balrog> | found it here though http://www.gtoal.com/athome/tailgunner/java/elite/elite-the_new_kind-1.0/ |
| 19:11:00 | <balrog> | supposedly "The dispute has now ended; the various versions are available on Bell's site." |
| 19:11:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | the problem is after cjpinder got a nastygram from braben about it he discontinued development immediately, leaving elite:tnk a broken buggy mess which doesn't work on anything except xfree86 and even then exiting the game crashes X since it does some nasty fullscreen hackery in an ugly way |
| 19:11:00 | <balrog> | :( |
| 19:12:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | the game is certainly fixable but i'm guessing the renderer has to be rewritten, probably from scratch |
| 19:12:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | well the dispute between braben and bell may be over |
| 19:13:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | but cjpinder was caught in the crossfire and never came back |
| 19:14:00 | <DFJustin> | -bs |
| 19:14:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | bs? how? |
| 19:15:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | if anything i said is wrong *please* correct me |
| 19:15:00 | <balrog> | Lord_Nigh: he means go to #archiveteam-bs |
| 19:15:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | oh |
| 19:15:00 | <balrog> | since this is OT |
| 19:15:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | ...yeah. sorry. |
| 19:16:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | (honestly i dont understand the purpose of the -bs channel, theres hardly enough discussion on both channels to warrant a separate offtopic channel...) |
| 19:16:00 | <underscor> | it occasionally gets bad |
| 19:16:00 | <underscor> | but these are all also publicly logged |
| 19:16:00 | <underscor> | so it's nice to keep this one cleaner |
| 19:17:00 | <underscor> | for people who are like "oh let me see what these guys are about" |
| 19:17:00 | <underscor> | cleaner as in, less noisy |
| 19:17:00 | <DFJustin> | also less hentai |
| 19:18:00 | <underscor> | http://i.imgur.com/j8E5f.jpg |
| 19:18:00 | <underscor> | oh, oops |
| 19:21:00 | <norbert79> | underscor: Still made me laugh |
| 19:21:00 | <underscor> | :D |
| 19:21:00 | <norbert79> | And Stoya is hot and cool |
| 19:26:00 | <norbert79> | In exchange, take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p_RrIA_Alc |
| 19:30:00 | <SketchCow> | <@Lord_Nigh> (honestly i dont understand the purpose of the -bs channel, theres hardly enough discussion on both channels to warrant a separate offtopic channel...) |
| 19:30:00 | <SketchCow> | I bet you disconnect and then come back. |
| 19:30:00 | <SketchCow> | Because guess what, there is a LOT of discussion, in both channels. Pages and pages. |
| 19:31:00 | <SketchCow> | Now, maybe we pale in comparison to the #catgirls-in-cellophane chatroom or whatever, but I'd rather we have archive team business in one channel, "HEY EVERRBFYYDY I SUREE DO LIKE MICROVWAVE OVENR FANFICTIONNN" in the other |
| 19:31:00 | <SketchCow> | We're a volunteer organization. |
| 19:32:00 | <SketchCow> | Someone comes in, afraid or heated up over an oncoming dataloss or offering resources, we don't need everyone arguing over whether 60fps ruins The Hobbit trilogy |
| 19:37:00 | <balrog> | I think the question at first was about an Archive.org issue, which then turned into more general discussion. |
| 19:52:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | yeah it was |
| 19:52:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | sorry |
| 19:53:00 | <Lord_Nigh> | (microwave oven fanfiction? this i gotta see...) |
| 19:54:00 | <Dark_Star> | damn, I can't believe I actually clicked on the #catgirls-in-cellophane channel link above :) |
| 19:55:00 | <balrog> | yeah I accidentally clicked it too :P |
| 22:24:00 | <godane> | i'm uploading www.ybbot.com and forums.ybbot.com |
| 22:35:00 | <godane> | uploaded: http://archive.org/details/ybbot.com-20121106-mirror |