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02:57:50<nicolas17>did someone here link to a story about botnets / residential proxies recently?
03:05:43<Umbire>a while back, yes
03:05:44<Umbire>why
03:05:54<Umbire>https://spur.us/blog/smart-tv-apps-residential-proxy-sdks
03:05:57<Umbire>it was this
03:07:18<nicolas17>that's it yes
03:07:37<nicolas17>the Jenkins server on build.neon.kde.org crashed 3 days ago for unknown reasons
03:07:50<nicolas17>despite returning 503 Service Unavailable, it's *still* getting 150 req/s from scrapers
03:08:04<nicolas17>most IPs make 1 request (the last 10000 requests were from 9892 different IPs)
03:15:17<klea>Hmm
03:15:45<klea>What about putting some cookie limiter like the one used on gitea.arpa.li (check it by hitting a deep url without viewing the homepage)
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13:07:07steering| should probably see what his TVs are doing
13:08:13<klea>I recommend unplugging the ethernet cable, and nuking the WiFi capabilities by enclosing it in a Faraday cage.
13:09:44<steering|>heh.
13:09:53<steering|>then they wouldn't be very useful.
13:11:02<klea>Security > Usefullness > Convenience /silly
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15:25:09<justauser>Security = {Confidentiality, Integrity, Availability}. Leaving TVs on doesn't really violate either, turning them off is an Availability problem.
15:29:27<steering|>justauser: the point of the link (https://spur.us/blog/smart-tv-apps-residential-proxy-sdks) says otherwise :)
15:29:46<justauser>Sure, it violates someone else
15:30:00<justauser>'s availability. Why should I make my life harder for it?
15:30:26<steering|>https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/01/the-kimwolf-botnet-is-stalking-your-local-network/ :)
15:30:52<steering|>it's not the worst
15:31:19<steering|>but also, as a responsible internet user who is savvy enough to understand the problem and able to potentially do something about it... you probably should?
15:31:22klea sends steering| some TCP packets to 11.0.0.1:22, asking to log in as 0 using password 0. /silly
15:31:27<justauser>Go. I have a single machine here, with iptables on full lockdown, and tons of TLS.
15:32:06<klea>Yeah, as a tech savvy user you should probably be a good netizen and avoid having your devices cause issues to others.
15:32:12<steering|>if nothing else I don't want some shady proxy network getting my only IPv4 on blacklists
15:32:50<steering|>& if you have a single machine then why are we talking about this?
15:33:14<steering|>if you don't have any network TV/embedded crap that's the subject of the discussion then there's nothing for you to do anyway? :)
15:33:47<justauser>I don't have a TV, but you do.
15:33:59<steering|>indeed I do.
15:34:11<justauser>But I suppose your LAN isn't interesting to surveil either.
15:34:39<steering|>probably not particularly. I'd still prefer not to give random access to it.
15:35:15<steering|>who knows, maybe there's a vulnerability somewhere and they're gonna sniff all my traffic to sell
15:35:41<steering|>(in reality, there probably are several such vulnerabilities on most people's LANs)
15:36:18<steering|>maybe they're gonna infect my robot lawn mower (no, I don't have one) and have it run over my dog
15:36:39<steering|>maybe they're just gonna infect my other TVs and sell the data from all of them
15:37:30<steering|>maybe they're just scraping sites from my IP taking up some of my bandwidth and probably getting my IP blocked in various places that I'll only-hopefully never care about
15:38:15<steering|>I don't really like the idea of any of those things. And in fact I'm not really concerned about my own TV, more kiddo's.
15:38:32<steering|>I know exactly who is selling the data from my own TV (Amazon) :P
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15:39:51<steering|>but who knows what my daughter has clicked on her Roku that it might be doing for example
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15:43:21<klea>steering needs to build a TV that his daughter can't accidentally or purposefully hack.
15:45:38<justauser>A CRT and vacuum tube one?
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15:51:16<klea>Sounds dangerous for her health if she manages to make it implode.
15:52:10<justauser>Okay, put a plexiglass cover in front.
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16:10:52<steering|>lol.
16:12:10<steering|>the problem with making such a thing is that most of the stuff to make it out of doesnt work very well on a tv screen controlled by a tv remote :P
16:41:02<klea>uhh, I might host my own meta-ListenBrainz API for crap to load stuff into my own self-hosted libre.fm since setting up ListenBrainz seems like a pain.
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18:08:04<@JAA>Drehkippfenster++
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18:09:31<klea>Drehkippfenster?
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19:04:12<@imer>Drehkippfenster.
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19:29:06<that_lurker>I wish I had one. Though currently it's relatively nice in Finland with the satans ass sweat heat staying in the central Europe
19:30:11<that_lurker>though my apartment building is currently doing full facade renovation so can't open Windows which is not that nice :-(
20:10:17<klea>So a ceiling fan?
20:10:23klea is avoiding to translate that.
20:12:20<that_lurker>it's a window you can tilt from the top to let some air in, but not open all of it.
20:15:06<klea>Ah, I think I saw some of those, I guess it's for safety?
20:15:43<that_lurker>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
20:16:56<that_lurker>I would want one, but I want even more the complete darkness curtain things they have in Germany.
20:19:27<@imer>klea: that_lurker: oh you very much can open all of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT8eBjlcT8s
20:19:45<@imer>I miss them :(
20:20:31<that_lurker>ah yes you can. my explanation was a bit lacking
20:20:34<klea>Neat.
20:22:08<that_lurker>This is the shit I want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Gfksf_hBM
20:23:06<that_lurker>as currently the fucking sun goes "down" at 23:00 and rises back up at 4, but because of cosmic shits it does not actually ever go that dark
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23:03:14<steering|>internet archive++
23:03:14<eggdrop>[karma] 'internet archive' now has 1 karma!
23:03:17<steering|>wayback machine++
23:03:18<eggdrop>[karma] 'wayback machine' now has 1 karma!
23:03:20<steering|>??
23:03:22<steering|>ia++
23:03:23<eggdrop>[karma] 'ia' now has 2 karma!
23:03:25<steering|>pls
23:03:33<steering|>archiveteam++
23:03:35<eggdrop>[karma] 'archiveteam' now has 5 karma!
23:03:36<steering|>archivebot++
23:06:48<klea>!ping
23:06:48<eggdrop>klea: pong!
23:06:55<klea>2026-07-01 23:03:36 <steering|> archivebot++ <- bot broken?
23:06:58<klea>ArchiveBot++
23:06:59<eggdrop>[karma] 'ArchiveBot' now has 5 karma!
23:07:11<steering|>Wed@1703.36 [hackint] -eggdrop- please dont flood the karmabot, steering|. try again later.
23:07:28<klea>Ah.
23:07:38<klea>So yes, broken.
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23:22:51<steering|>nope, working as intended
23:22:57<steering|>unlike klea's server
23:23:15<klea>Well, I told incus to restart.
23:23:31<klea>Because it's so awesome it handles upgrades as well as tmux.
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