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00:01:23<klea>I'd like to have librewolf have a nixpkgs commiter on top of it, but that may only happen in a dream where browsers stopped being part of the CA/B forum, and people use DANE instead of trusting a big list of CAs.
00:05:41<steering>klea: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/533046 ? :)
00:06:06<klea>Wut
00:06:27<klea>I had to switch to Firefox 2026-06-16 sadly, now I have to switch back.
00:06:28<klea>aaaa
00:08:52klea needs to automatically upgrade nixpkgs.
00:10:40<klea>steering++
00:10:41<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 66 karma!
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14:27:42<klea>oh no, systemd https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/63c54a346e01f30e726f97cf/69ce364a893d698d7d5622eb_OC3%202026%20%E2%80%93%20Remote%20Attestation%20of%20Immutable%20Operating%20Systems%20built%20on%20systemd.pdf
14:27:46<klea>https://snug.moe/notes/anrfcdaaxwikc1xw
14:36:14<klea>https://giants-club.net/articles/just-use-mastodon/ or sharkey.
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14:40:21<steering>You know... I kinda wish I wasn't old enough to remember when extraordinary rendition was still considered controversial...
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17:59:52<kpcyrd>klea: for what it's worth, DANE is a lot more prone to swappero-shenanigans by authorities compared to CAs and all the append-only transparency log inclusion proof stuff they have been made to participate in
18:00:25<klea>kpcyrd: Yes, but the certificate transparency is opt in.
18:00:43<klea>And there could be a weaker version of DANE that required both CA cert and DANE.
18:01:04<justauser>Not much. CAs are allowed to issue certs without CT, but modern browsers will refuse to use them IIRC.
18:01:17<klea>Depends on the CA AFAIK?
18:01:23<kpcyrd>no, it's client enforced
18:01:28<kpcyrd>your client may suck, sure
18:01:39<kpcyrd>but it's not up to the CAs
18:02:18<kpcyrd>"your client" with "you" being the lyrical you ofc
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18:04:09<klea>The CA/Browser forum is a coalition of both CAs and Browsers.
18:10:28<kpcyrd>I'm aware :)
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