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02:45:53<pabs>klea: add webrings to https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Webring :)
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03:31:29<nicolas17>https://reddit.com/r/Superbowl/
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03:59:18<steering>"Pity the Canadians. They were poised to benefit from the best of three worlds: British culture, French food, and American technology. Sadly, they got British food, French technology, and American culture."
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06:38:00<klea>pabs: ah, thanks.
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15:37:53<steering>Yankee Doodle is thought to have started out as a harvest song, its words possibly originating from farmers in 15th century Holland. It contained mostly nonsensical and out-of-place words that were presumably sung to a similar—if not the same—tune: "Yanker, didel, doodle down, Diddle, dudel, lanther, Yanke viver, voover vown, Botermilk und tanther." Farm laborers in Holland at the time
15:37:58<steering>received as their wages "as much buttermilk (Botermilk) as they could drink, and a tenth (tanther) of the grain".
15:38:01<steering>TIL
15:38:04<steering>"Yankee Doodle" is a British traditional song and nursery rhyme, the early versions of which predate the Seven Years' War and American Revolutionary War.
15:39:24<nukke>https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally
15:39:28<nukke>discord++
15:39:30<eggdrop>[karma] 'discord' now has -27 karma!
15:40:28<steering>>Beginning with a phased global rollout to new and existing users in early March, users may be required to engage in an age-verification process to change certain settings or access sensitive content.
15:40:32<steering>ew
15:40:34<steering>irc++
15:40:35<eggdrop>[karma] 'irc' now has 14 karma!
15:40:36<steering>discord--
15:40:38<eggdrop>[karma] 'discord' now has -28 karma!
15:40:43<steering>... what
15:40:52<steering>how'd those end up out of order
15:41:51<steering>>Discord users can choose to use facial age estimation or submit a form of identification to its vendor partners, with more options coming in the future. Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use
15:41:58<steering>multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.
15:42:00<steering>yay, AI
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15:48:24<nukke>you got something to hide?
15:49:38<BlankEclair>"On-device processing: Video selfies for facial age estimation never leave a user’s device"; i'm kinda curious if you can mock the results then?
15:51:36<justauser>Zombocom is now dead.
15:59:01<justauser>https://nondeterministic.computer/@mjg59/116021626589117448
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16:04:25<klea>Probably.
16:09:57<justauser>https://mastodon.online/@larsmb/116017796592641161
16:12:44<katia>nukke, do you got something to hide?
16:16:36<steering>nukke: nope, i just don't particularly believe in giving my personal data away to companies "to protect the children"
16:17:05<steering>(especially when it will be hilariously ineffective at such)
16:17:13<justauser>You got something to show?
16:17:40<nukke>steering: so you're against protecting children, got it
16:22:27steering wonders what "the C ABI" is (re @mjg59)
16:22:31<steering>;)
16:23:11<justauser>The way one function calls another, as defined by C.
16:23:31<steering>except C doesn't define that. the OS does./
16:23:38<justauser>Not always.
16:23:43<steering>(and it differs between windows and linux)
16:23:59<steering>really? C defines what registers are used and what gets passed on the stack? interesting. TIL./
16:24:06<justauser>OS, for example, has zero business in null-terminated vs. length-prefixed strings.
16:24:17<steering>???
16:24:37<justauser>Registers are even more funny.
16:24:48<steering>you're free to use lengthed strings in C if you want to. the OS is also free to expect lengthed strings in its syscalls if it wants to.
16:26:33<steering>the only part of C that *doesn't* like lengthed strings is the stdlib... which is API not ABI
16:26:52<justauser>POSIX does define some ABIs, but more modern languages tend to ignore them.
16:27:19<justauser>Even C, when operated by an optimizing compiler.
16:27:43<justauser>Yet, for some reason, it's called C ABI.
16:28:05<justauser>Probably has to do with the historical inseparability of C and UNIX.
16:28:48<justauser>ctypes, cffi, extern "C" {}...
16:30:52<steering>>Anyone who spends much time trying to parse C(++) headers very quickly says “ah, actually, fuck that” and asks a C(++) compiler to do it. Keep in mind that meaningfully parsing a C header is more than just parsing: you need to resolve #includes, typedefs, and macros too!
16:30:59<steering>"ah yes, a preprocessor is a compiler"
16:31:30<steering>(to be fair, the hard part is NOT the preprocessor)
16:31:30<justauser>Interpreter, but probably a Turing-complete one.
16:31:51<justauser>IOCCC has some program computing entirely in preprocessor.
16:35:05<steering>lmao @ the curl --install thread though
16:35:12<steering>>then we might as well invert the logic and make it `--noinstall` for the rare cases where the user does *not* want to execute random goodies from the interwebs
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16:59:38<klea>yes, every command, if you give it a url, should automatically try to run the remotely downloaded file, after fetching with X-Dumping-Straight-to: ring0, to the kernel's ring0's top place in the stack, so it will be run that instant.
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17:37:48<katia>curl --install vuris
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18:16:58<steering>procrastination++
18:16:59<eggdrop>[karma] 'procrastination' now has 92 karma!
18:23:06<DogsRNice>https://i.redd.it/wm3crbi6ftec1.png
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20:10:41<klea>I got funky idea, projects using h2ibot should automatically send status information, along with a meow back, when a meow action is sent to them.
20:10:52<klea>examples of meow actions include the two following messages.
20:10:56klea meows at h2ibot.
20:10:56klea meows at h2ibot
20:32:52katia wonders if klea has any more funky ideas.
20:33:15klea doesn't know any know, but could maybe later get more.
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23:29:40<klea>!reminders
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