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03:14:31<steering>Many Colossus filesystems have multiple exabytes of storage, including two different filesystems that have in excess of 10 exabytes of storage each. https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/storage-data-transfer/how-colossus-optimizes-data-placement-for-performance
03:14:40steering drools
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03:19:19<@JAA>Is one of them YouTube and the other GDrive?
03:20:30<@JAA>> some of Google’s largest filesystems regularly exceed read throughputs of 50 TB/s and write throughputs of 25 TB/s
03:21:15<nicolas17>I read somewhere that Google has the codename "Bigfoot" to refer to Apple as a customer of Google Cloud Storage
03:22:39<steering>https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/report-apple-is-googles-largest-cloud-customer-for-storage/ 2021
03:22:51<steering>iPhone maker reportedly stores 8 exabytes of data on GCP, known as ‘Bigfoot’ by Google staffers
03:23:36<steering>fwiw my initial guesses were youtube and search
03:24:05<nicolas17>afaik iPhones contact iCloud servers (on Apple datacenters) to say "I want to upload this file of this size to this server", and iCloud servers respond "ok, send it to this signed AWS/GCP URL"
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03:24:52<steering>well, if you're gonna pay AWS/GCP prices, there's no reason to waste your own bandwidth and processing proxying it
03:25:31<nicolas17>yeah and also they didn't want to spend money buying storage
03:25:59<nicolas17>like, disks
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03:56:47<Guest>they likely just dont want to deal with redundancy/backups/DR/etc.
03:57:04<Guest>its cheaper to pay a bandwidth bill than spend time creating that infrastructure
04:00:18<nicolas17>they do deal with that
04:00:26<nicolas17>for databases and encryption keys etc
04:00:48<nicolas17>they don't want to get into that trouble for bulk data storage when there's no reason to do it themselves
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04:26:05<steering>it's just Business Math
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12:12:13<klea>huh
12:12:18<klea>https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jan/30/moltbook/
12:12:24<klea>https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2026/01/ai-agents-now-have-their-own-reddit-style-social-network-and-its-getting-weird-fast/
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18:11:15<klea>> In short, an anti-spam protocol originally designed to provide short-lived authenticity for emails traveling between email servers has mutated — without any discussion or consent from commercial mail customers — into a tool that provides cryptographically undeniable authentication of every email in your inbox and outbox. This is an amazing resource for journalists,
18:11:15<klea>hackers, and blackmailers.
18:11:15<klea>https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2020/11/16/ok-google-please-publish-your-dkim-secret-keys/
18:28:48<klea>https://neilmadden.blog/2025/11/12/were-urls-a-bad-idea/ prompts me to think of:
18:28:48<klea>Is the mere existence of URLs a bad idea (similar to #urlteam's topic: URL shorteners were a terrible idea)
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18:44:02<nicolas17>klea: why are people giving more advertising to moltbook I don't get it
18:45:05<klea>I don't know, all I know it's that having such a heartbeat system or such a network will be a lot more resource intensive than only having LLMs start up when requested by users.
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22:39:59<steering>wtf @ moltbook
22:40:06<nexussfan>yup
22:40:51<nexussfan>but like i think humans can get onto the platform since the api is in 1 .md file
22:43:49<klea>time for nexussfan to trick LLMs into making HTTP requests with all their context information to some endpoint nexussfan controls every 8 hours.
22:50:31steering wonders if HTTP will still be as pervasive in 100 years
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22:51:07<nexussfan>klea: no, like look at https://www.moltbook.com/skill.md
22:51:12<nexussfan>> ### Create a post
22:51:20<nexussfan>They literally show the curl command for creating a post
22:51:26<nexussfan>And every other API call
22:51:52<klea>Yes, I mean you tricking LLM agents into sending their context into a server you control trough the use of creating a post.
22:52:29<nexussfan>also that, maybe
22:53:04<nexussfan>I don't have an twitter account so i can't test it
22:54:10<steering>>The billion dollar question right now is whether we can figure out how to build a safe version of this system. The demand is very clearly here, and the Normalization of Deviance dictates that people will keep taking bigger and bigger risks until something terrible happens.
22:54:21<steering>(https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jan/30/moltbook/)
22:55:00<steering>y'know, I was much happier when AI doomsaying was still solidly scifi
22:56:37<nexussfan>The posts on there are pretty funny sometimes
22:58:16<nexussfan>The web client isn't working for me right now
22:58:59<nexussfan>> Loading...
23:07:14<nexussfan>Even a geocities clone(?) moltcities.org
23:07:31<nexussfan>Wait this one requires no account linking xD
23:07:34<nexussfan>Let me do this
23:11:02<nexussfan>> HTTP/2 500 > error code: 1101
23:11:25<steering>https://www.troyhunt.com/a-sneaky-phish-just-grabbed-my-mailchimp-mailing-list/ lol oof
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23:13:12<klea>did nexussfan setup a moltcities.org account?
23:13:20<nexussfan>the api is down i think
23:13:24<nexussfan>http 500 code
23:13:31<nexussfan>or they just vibe coded it so bad that it doesn't work
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23:16:30<klea>lovely
23:16:45<nexussfan>I have no idea what is "error code: 1101"
23:16:59<nexussfan>All that I know is that it's supposed to return json
23:17:03<nexussfan>according the the document
23:29:12<@JAA>Re Troy Hunt, I feel like a big part of why this kind of phishing works at all is the normalisation of making people click links in emails.
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23:30:46<steering>html in emails was a mistake
23:33:49<steering>links not so much though. should emails really tell you to go to the website manually and log in and then go through whatever navigation you need to do to get to the relevant page?
23:34:53<klea>I agree, links in emails are kind of usefull, if you strip out the HTML part, and have the users see the actual link, it might prevent some kinds of email phishing.
23:35:35<steering>it's much harder to make a plain-text email "seem like the real thing" and get people to not check the from address etc
23:39:16<@JAA>Then you just do homoglyph attacks because restricting emails to ASCII is a non-starter.
23:40:11<@JAA>Yes, I think it should instruct people to log in, but no navigation should be needed after login. For something critical like that, you should get a warning message immediately after login in the customer panel.
23:40:52<steering>well, sure, but there are other things less critical
23:41:12<steering>"please make sure we have your up-to-date contact info" for example
23:41:24<@JAA>Sure. In that case, you include the exact instructions how to get to the relevant page in the email.
23:41:49<steering>and now even fewer people will actually do it :P
23:42:19<@JAA>My bank does exactly what I describe, by the way.
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23:43:39<@JAA>You can escalate something like that over time. If someone hasn't checked their contact info for $howeverlong, send them an email. When it's 2*$howeverlong, interstitial on login. When it's 3*$howeverlong, require confirmation before continuing on login.
23:44:09<steering>sure, and now you're pissing me off because i know mine is already up to date :P
23:44:21<@JAA>Oh well
23:44:59<steering>btw in many cases banks over here just email you a link to see the message from them :P
23:45:27<@JAA>Yeah, there's lots of crappy designs out there.
23:45:29<nicolas17>I get emails from like 3 different banks in other countries
23:45:35<nicolas17>notifying me of transactions and shit
23:45:54<steering>what's really great is when they discontinue all the old URLs too
23:46:22<steering>so you have like a week to save the email and then its gone forever
23:46:39<nicolas17>I have no way to turn it off because support wants me to verify my identity and prove I'm their actual customer before they talk to me, when the reality is I'm *not* their customer and that's why I want the emails gone
23:47:43<steering>speaking of bad financial institute practices
23:47:51steering waits for the email from his mortgage lender so he can log in
23:48:16<steering>nothing better than email-every-time 2fa, oh yes
23:49:20<TheTechRobo>Interac e-transfers are great because, for those without autodeposit enabled, you click a link in an email to deposit them
23:49:23<klea>steering: Time for you to setup a https://github.com/internetarchive/warcprox/ instance so you can have your emails stored forever properly in your hard drive.
23:49:24<@JAA>Is it the 'we email you a code' kind or the 'you don't have a password; just enter your email address, and we'll send you a one-time login link' kind?
23:49:39<steering>TheTechRobo: canada is so much better than the US
23:49:46<steering>JAA: former
23:50:12<@JAA>Well, there is something better then. :-P
23:50:23<steering>yeah, many things better
23:50:46<steering>oh, they do also appear to support SMS
23:51:11<steering>profile has "2 Step Verification" with a "Enroll cell phone" button
23:54:24<klea>Lovely country some live in: https://infosec.exchange/@briankrebs/115962508398912420
23:55:04<TheTechRobo>steering: Oh, yeah, etransfers are great, but the whole "click this link to deposit!" is probably not a great habit to get people in
23:55:50<steering>yeah, fireonlive complained about that before too :P
23:55:57<TheTechRobo>Hahaha they'll require you to download their app to enter the US?
23:56:23<steering>klea: fortunately(?), i'm a citizen
23:56:36<steering>also ESTA doesnt apply to canada
23:56:40<steering>s/$/ians/
23:56:50<steering>s/\$/a$/
23:56:57<steering>:P
23:57:09<klea>steering: i believe that by being a citizen they can extradite you more easily if they wanted to, but whatever(sh)
23:57:32<steering>klea: yeah that implies the ability to live somewhere else anyway though
23:58:59<klea>yeah

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