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00:36:43<klea><https://github.com/numtide/narwal> oh no
00:36:48<klea>> The S3 bucket behind https://cache.nixos.org contains more than 1 billion files requiring more than 600 TB of storage. This project is yet another attempt at garbage collecting that behemoth.
00:37:53<steering>i assume its the character set that should be used for the url but idkmybffjill
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01:18:17<klea>btw, steering i think it didn't load the module for #jseater.
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02:13:31<steering>oh, yeah, it wouldnt have
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02:46:31<steering>https://annas-archive.li/ 334.4TB <4 seeders
02:46:35steering needs a few hundred spare TB
02:48:38klea needs a few hundred spare QB
02:49:51<steering>yeah quarterbacks are nice too
02:52:02<klea>steering: nono, i mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix?useskin=vector#:~:text=Symbol-,quetta,2022
02:52:12<steering>yeah i know i googled it first :P
02:52:17<klea>lol
02:52:26<klea>can steering give me a quettabyte or two please?
02:53:28<steering>if i had one to spare
02:55:12<steering>i question the utility of including a prefix all the way up at 10^30 though
02:57:23<steering>https://www.bipm.org/en/cgpm-2022/resolution-3
02:57:30<steering>the benefits of encouraging the use of SI units by providing new SI prefixes for scientific communities that depend on measurements that are not covered by the current range,
02:57:34<steering>the needs of data science in the near future to express quantities of digital information using orders of magnitude in excess of 1024,
02:57:34<klea>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers)?useskin=vector#1030:~:text=Bacterial%20cells%20on%20Earth,-%3A%20The
02:58:52<klea>inb4 DoT <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_digital_data_storage?useskin=vector#DNA_of_things>
02:59:44<steering>i'm not particularly happy about the idea of data farms exceeding 1000 YB
03:00:02<klea>could you care to explain?
03:00:04<steering>(i'm not sure why bipm says 10^24 when its really in excess of 10^27 they should be worried about)
03:00:22<steering>umm well
03:00:30<steering>i'm not particularly happy with the scale of Big Data :P
03:00:44<klea>oh
03:00:48<klea>yeah i agree.
03:00:51<klea><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_digital_data_storage?useskin=vector#DNA_of_things:~:text=25%5D-,In,28%5D>
03:00:59<klea>mhmm, very very cheap
03:06:21<nicolas17>I mean, "quetta" was not designed for "byte" :P
03:06:39<klea>they should make queer bytes :p
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03:07:02<klea>aa im confused how to express that sentence to a unit aware calculator
03:07:08<klea>> In March 2017, Yaniv Erlich and Dina Zielinski of Columbia University and the New York Genome Center published a method known as DNA Fountain that stored data at a density of 215 petabytes per gram of DNA. The technique approaches the Shannon capacity of DNA storage, achieving 85% of the theoretical limit. The method was not ready for large-scale use, as it costs $7000 to
03:07:08<klea>synthesize 2 megabytes of data and another $2000 to read it.
03:07:28<nicolas17>"The total number of DNA base pairs on Earth is estimated at 5.0×10^37"
03:08:11<klea>https://rinkcalc.app/?q=(215%20petabytes%20%2F%20gram)%20*%20((7000%2F2)%20USD%2F%20megabyte) ?
03:08:14<klea>im not entirely sure.
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05:08:15<steering>nicolas17: one of the explicit motivations for the new units was "the needs of data science" to represent things bigger than yottabytes
05:09:24<steering>klea: i'm not sure what units you're looking to get out of that?
05:09:45<steering>USD/gram?
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09:24:59<klea>steering: yea, i'm trying to get out how much it costed them (i believe they didn't store the 215PB they claim but only 2 megabytes tho)
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10:53:42<steering>$/MB * 215PB
10:54:01<steering>bytes cancel out leaving units of $
10:56:19<klea>thanks
10:56:51<klea>https://rinkcalc.app/?q=(7000%20USD%20per%202%20megabytes)%20*%20215%20PB
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14:45:24<Guest>found some 4TB ssds for $250 US https://www.crucial.com/ssd/p3/ct4000p3ssd8
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14:52:58<Guest>gen 3 but better than nothing
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16:23:06<Kotomind>Hexchat's tray icon was blinking with a "private message" notice. Theoretically, its settings state "open private messages in new tabs" - but I don't see any new tabs being opened. Anybody knows anything about private messages in Hexchat? o_O
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17:12:33<katia>hexchat is no longer maintained, would not surprise me if it was a bug
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17:27:10<klea>> <svg width="800" height="600" canvas_bounds="-1200.00,-600.00,2000.00,1200.00" xml:id="page.NS1FS7HHAH2G9126383J0RMTB">
17:27:10<klea>smh i wonder how i can parse that properly to get the real page size for content, so i can replace it with it easily, to later get a nice svg i can plock out to pdf.
17:28:25<klea>huh, qubert rebooted? /cc arkiver
17:29:42<@arkiver>yes
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18:29:23<Dango360>i'd probably still be on hexchat if it wasn't for the lounge
18:30:17<justauser>Yeah. Buggy a bit, but being in browser and being able to open links well beats it.
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20:55:18<klea>in today's round up of why you should definitively trust experimental generative AI. <https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/zLDacHRr8ap2jm3CXXMeLR-650-80.png.webp> Mix about 1/8 cup of non-toxic glue, like Elmer's school glue, into the sauce to add tackiness. (How to prevent cheese from sliding off pizza)
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20:59:10<@JAA>That's still happening?
20:59:30<@JAA>Or is that a screenshot from nearly two years ago?
21:01:44<@JAA>This is where that came from, by the way: https://old.reddit.com/r/Pizza/comments/1a19s0/my_cheese_slides_off_the_pizza_too_easily/c8t7bbp/
21:02:44<klea>JAA: im not sure, i took it from some irc
21:08:36<klea>JAA: no, it seems that it was a image url given by the CDN for <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/cringe-worth-google-ai-overviews> which is a 2024 article.
21:08:47<ivan>https://www.google.com/search?q=hundredth%20of%20a%20cm will often tell you that a hundredth of a cm is a mm
21:09:39<klea>utm50 fun :p https://www.google.com/search?q=hundredth+of+a+cm&udm=50
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21:31:54<that_lurker>https://www.ilmarilauhakangas.fi/irc_technology_news_from_the_second_half_of_2025/
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21:32:24<that_lurker>Always fun to see that IRC stuff/development is active
21:36:11<klea>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJE5eBg7iQ4
21:36:58<klea><meta http-equiv="X-Clacks-Overhead" content="GNU Terry Pratchett" />
21:37:11<klea>i forgot that you can set http headers in html (kind of***)
21:38:21<deafmute>Is there any way to get the full images, not the thumbnails, here?
21:38:28<deafmute>https://cosplay.com/costume/67ln5x
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23:04:52<klea>deafmute: it seems changing medium. to photo. in the s3 urls works: <https://s3.amazonaws.com/medium.cosplay.com/143783/1800163.jpg> -> <https://s3.amazonaws.com/photo.cosplay.com/143783/1800163.jpg>
23:05:18<nicolas17>wdym works
23:05:35<klea>deafmute asked for the full images?
23:05:47<nicolas17>that second link does not work
23:06:12<klea>wait what
23:06:35<nicolas17>https://s3.amazonaws.com/photo.cosplay.com/143783/1800163.jpg -> access denied
23:06:55<klea>https://s3.amazonaws.com/photo.cosplay.com/143783/1800163.jpg
23:07:16<klea>nicolas17: https://cosplay.com/s/092dder49 i clicked open image from there.
23:07:46<nicolas17>referer?
23:07:50<klea>perhaps.
23:08:39<nicolas17>yep referer
23:09:41<klea>btw, mention this in #archiveteam-bs
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