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00:49:24<klea><https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thaliaarchi/regexp-museum/refs/heads/main/relations.svg>, there's too many regex definitions :(
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00:51:45Topic: Wanna bikeshed about the topic? | We can't be back on our bullshit if we were never off our bullshit FOREHEADTAP.GIF
00:51:45Topic set by AlsoJAA at 2025-09-09 18:44:54Z
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00:54:42<@JAA>I'm going to write my own regex engine, with blackjack and hookers!
00:55:55<@JAA>Though this graph is a bit of a mixture of regex language definitions, regex engines, and programs using the engines.
00:56:39<klea>JAA: fix the graph on GitHub :p
00:56:49<klea>or make another one
00:56:52<@JAA>I'm good.
00:56:59<klea>oh
00:57:22<@JAA>I do kind of want to implement a toy engine at some point though. Should be fun.
00:57:26<klea>yay!
00:57:32<klea>write it in brainfuck!
00:58:47<@JAA>Oh dear
00:59:09<klea>JAA: then you'll be able to use <https://github.com/thaliaarchi/bfrs> to optimize it.
00:59:26<@JAA>:-)
01:00:54<steering>turns out, regular expressions are not so regular as one might expect ;)
01:01:20<klea>lfmao
01:01:32<klea>what happened, JAA is restarting all bots operated by them?
01:02:06<steering>what is rn over between perl and gosling emacs
01:02:46<@JAA>Yep, most regex engines are non-regular nowadays.
01:05:20<klea>i wonder, how much would it cost to make tapes like the one from <https://archive.org/details/utah_unix_v4_raw> today?
01:16:13<klea>i guess things like <https://discuss.systems/@ricci/115736865618463865> don't count towards appearing "In the media"?
01:17:48<klea>for people interested that don't have JS: <https://www.flux.utah.edu/paper/singh-pets26> (and i think it wouldn't count since it's historical snapshots from IA not from AT)
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01:21:40<@JAA>Does LTO count?
01:29:44<klea>i guess.
01:36:12<klea>Guest: (continuing discussion from -bs) i am alerted by the mere fact of you thinking about discussing a project outside of it's channel /p
01:36:21<klea>and no, i don't have a regex, i was just on irc
01:36:31<klea>and technically i do have irc splitscreened
01:36:48<nicolas17>"I don't have alerts I just look at the IRC window 24/7"
01:37:19<klea>rofl
01:37:33<klea>i wonder if some company's willing to pay me to do that :p
01:38:42<@JAA>You can get LTO-1 equipment basically for free, and it'll store orders of magnitude more data.
01:39:02<Guest>you are in like 150 channels though.. lol
01:39:05<@JAA>The UNIX v4 tar is only a couple MB.
01:39:19<nicolas17>https://codon.org.uk/~mjg59/blog/p/what-is-a-pc-compatible/
01:39:24<@JAA>Guest: Those are rookie numbers.
01:39:37<nicolas17>"PC-compatible is a social construct"
01:39:38<@JAA>I'm at about 415 windows, most of which are channels.
01:39:53<klea>i'm at about 666 windows, most of which are channels too.
01:40:05<@JAA>jinn666
01:40:15<Guest>🥲
01:40:16<klea>but i don't track all windows. (i should but i don't know how to have different priorities easily)
01:40:20<Guest>i could never keep up with that many
01:40:27<Guest>because i feel like i have to read everything i miss
01:40:41<klea>most of those don't get messages at all lol
01:40:44<@JAA>I read more or less everything in AT channels. Not necessarily in others.
01:41:15<klea>like, keeping up with these irc seems good but i am on some signal channels where if you wanted to read it, it's a full time job
01:42:24<klea>JAA: i wanted to store a couple quettabytes, not a couple megabytes.
01:42:58<@JAA>¿Qué?
01:43:14<klea>I mean, i just want to store all data in a single lto tape
01:43:17<klea>s/lto //
01:43:26<nicolas17>bad idea, you want redundancy
01:43:31<klea>oh
01:43:33<@JAA>That'll be a big tape.
01:43:57<klea>i thought we advanced, and that storage got smaller :-p
01:44:25<nicolas17>JAA: imagine the seek times!
01:45:21<klea>i wonder if time travel (to the past) was to be possible, if it'd somehow be possible to make a storage medium that has a time coordinate, and thus infinite storage.
01:45:39<klea>wtf did i write, 'was to be possible'...
01:46:40<@JAA>Well, of course. Just keep overwriting the same thing and go back to the relevant time for seeking.
01:46:44<nicolas17>^
01:47:08<klea>so we just have to invent time travel?
01:47:17<klea>inb4 time travel becomes part of AT's goals
01:47:23<klea>s/goals/scope/
01:47:41<klea>btw, does anyone have links on how to run this crappy raw file i got from the tap file?
01:48:57<@JAA>Step 1 is to download https://archive.org/details/utah-v4 instead.
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01:50:22<klea>oh
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01:55:13<klea>btw, if you tar a git repo that you cloned from a local git repo you may leak paths:
01:55:13<klea>curl --silent --location https://archive.org/download/utah-v4/Utah_v4.tar | tar --extract --to-stdout Utah_v4/.git/config
01:56:19<klea>btw, TIL other projects like gnupg use phorge: https://dev.gnupg.org/
01:56:28<klea>from https://dev.gnupg.org/T7900
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02:10:24<klea>btw, for that phorge thing i was thinking maybe having a wiki page like this: <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge/en> which links to custom forms (now you can't try it because it seems to have a 502 error?)
02:12:34<nukke>>Microsoft Office has been renamed to “Microsoft 365 Copilot app” https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/the-microsoft-365-app-transition-to-the-microsoft-365-copilot-app-22eac811-08d6-4df3-92dd-77f193e354a5
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02:26:18<klea>more phorge propaganda: <https://fosstodon.org/@phorge/114160275475180977> <https://we.phorge.it/maniphest/graph/15064/>
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02:30:14<Guest>nukke: it was "Office 365" -> "Microsoft Office" (or "Microsoft 365", cant remember) -> "Microsoft 365 Copilot"
02:30:27<Guest>they cant stick with a name and changed it (along with the icon) 3 times or so
02:31:02<Guest>and they recently "revamped" all the ui for office on the web so it makes everything a lot harder to find
02:31:23<Guest>Microsoft--
02:31:23<eggdrop>[karma] 'Microsoft' now has -7 karma!
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03:11:19<nulldata>Yeah some months ago they changed portal.office.com on the business side to go to Copilot chat instead of the usual links to 365 apps
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04:20:12<Kotomind>steering: I've wondered why the little piece of plastic in SD slot that comes with a new laptop can't be an SD adapter... maybe because an adapter is less dust-proof without a card?
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04:56:09<BlankEclair>https://monashdiversit.com/
04:56:14<BlankEclair>does this give a 403 for y'all?
04:56:54<nicolas17>"Sorry, you have been blocked"
04:57:59klea noods
04:58:21<BlankEclair>ouch :p
04:58:55<BlankEclair>oh, it's now apparently a casino site
04:58:57<BlankEclair>ew
05:00:13<nicolas17>20250308150717 WBM capture is just a parked domain
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11:45:16<eggdrop>katia, you are not authenticated to NickServ and/or I don't know you!
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11:47:57klea wonders if #h is a AT channel.
11:50:33<katia>klea: why can you ,join
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11:51:50<klea>i also made it join #discourage since that (even if with no chat) seems to be another project set on the wiki with channel
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12:34:19<BlankEclair>irc bouncer, going under (i hope it boots just fine)
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19:43:35<nicolas17>https://www.ft.com/content/ad94db4c-95a0-4c65-bd8d-3b43e1251091?accessToken=zwAGR7kzep9gkdOtlNtMlaBMZdO9jTtD4SUQkQ.MEYCIQCdZajuC9uga-d9b5Z1t0HI2BIcnkVoq98loextLRpCTgIhAPL3rW72aTHBNL_lS7s1ONpM2vBgNlBNHDBeGbHkPkZj&sharetype=gift&token=a7473827-0799-4064-9008-bf22b3c99711
19:44:24<klea>i love nondescript links filled with just UUIDs
19:48:38<nicolas17>"Who’s who at X, the deepfake porn site formerly known as Twitter" -- Financial times
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20:36:40<@OrIdow6>Don't you like how if a company hosts anything that gets vaugely negative news coverage they immediately try to wipe all traces of it
20:36:44<@OrIdow6>https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/mystery-trader-garners-400000-plus-windfall-maduros-capture-2026-01-05/
20:37:51<@OrIdow6>No no no, information is something we try to simulate the impression of to create Content
20:39:46<@OrIdow6>I remember arguing with someone a few years ago when Discord banned a server that got a New York Times story mentioning it, and they believed the company's justifications that it was something completely unrelated that just happened to coincide in time
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