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02:39:07<nukke>If you think windows is trash now, you better brace yourselves https://www.thurrott.com/dev/330980/microsoft-to-replace-all-c-c-code-with-rust-by-2030
02:49:01<klea>ButtFlare--
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11:22:20<that_lurker>"Our strategy is to combine AI and Algorithms to rewrite Microsoft’s largest codebases."
11:22:33<that_lurker>oh all the bugs and CVE's we are going to have
11:51:18<klea>why do companies do that
11:51:40<klea>oh yeah they only care to the hype
11:52:17<klea>well, the money behind it
11:55:44<that_lurker>most likely some buzzword that can be used to appease the shareholders
11:57:09<that_lurker>or they just want to use more AI and don't fully trust the (C/C++) code it produces so they want a memory safe codebase to let the AI make mistakes in
11:59:02<klea>oh yes because memory safety is the only thing that matters :p
12:02:29<klea>but yeah i guess having bugs appear is better than having memory unsafetyness (never mind that iirc there's actually some edge cases where you can get rust to build memory unsafe code, and that iirc memory leaks are not a memory safety issue so long as you have some reference to them)
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13:18:54<TheTechRobo>You don't even need a reference to them. Box::leak is 100% safe code.
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21:10:40<klea>oh, i thought you had to keep a reference somewhere, not that you could leak it directly :p
21:12:07<klea>https://cyrneko.eu/simpler-protocols.html
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21:57:03<that_lurker>Ahh the amazing thing that is the AI bubble https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0K4XPu3Qhg
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22:52:58<nicolas17>klea: afaik it's possible to create two reference-counted objects that reference each other and leak, in 100% "safe" code
22:53:09<klea>oh
22:53:21<klea>very fun :(
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22:54:38<nicolas17>therefore, marking a leak() function as unsafe is pointless, since it can be implemented in safe code
22:55:21<nicolas17>this stuff apparently caused Drama:tm: ten years ago
22:58:49<nicolas17>https://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2015/04/29/on-reference-counting-and-leaks/
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23:24:40<klea>i was given this link to add to the discussion: https://faultlore.com/blah/everyone-poops/
23:34:11<nicolas17>"Wow I sure wrote this article, huh? What the fuck was I thinking" well it was a whole gender ago so
23:46:18klea nods
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