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| 02:25:33 | <pabs> | aw, KDE Klipper folks don't want to add infinite history... |
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| 02:52:47 | <pabs> | ugh, KDE stuff takes ages to build. need a new PC... |
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| 02:55:33 | <nicolas17> | pabs: I once built KDE stuff with gcc3 |
| 02:55:39 | <nicolas17> | and hardware of that era |
| 02:55:59 | <pabs> | things have gotten bigger since then I guess |
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| 02:56:22 | <nicolas17> | I remember reading that gcc4 was a *significant* improvement in build speed for C++ code |
| 02:56:22 | <pabs> | Trinity folks might have good reason to exist :) |
| 02:56:56 | <pabs> | hmm, wonder if I'm going to run out of disk before this build finishes... |
| 02:57:39 | <nicolas17> | are you using ccache? |
| 02:57:43 | <pabs> | ya |
| 02:58:06 | <pabs> | thats tiny though, the build chroot is not |
| 02:58:23 | <nicolas17> | nowadays ccache defaults to compressing object files, so that helps a lot |
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| 02:58:39 | <nicolas17> | but the best disk usage is probably compression off hardlinking on |
| 02:59:17 | <pabs> | oh, pbuilder doesn't clean the apt cache after installing deps... |
| 02:59:28 | <nicolas17> | that will eat some space |
| 02:59:49 | <nicolas17> | also have you considered a temporary VPS? |
| 03:00:29 | <nicolas17> | I once got a big VPS for 3 hours to build Chromium when my local hardware didn't have enough RAM to survive the build |
| 03:01:39 | <steering> | Honestly I feel like it would probably be worse building KDE on a potato now than back when I did |
| 03:01:49 | <steering> | it's not great fun building it on my overpowered thing |
| 03:02:00 | <nicolas17> | I don't think KDE has gone crazy with metaprogramming and other |
| 03:02:12 | <nicolas17> | ...and other modern heavyweight C++ features |
| 03:03:02 | <nicolas17> | hmm well I guess Qt5's QObject::connect() taking pointers to member functions is a template mess compared to the old way involving strings and code-generation mess |
| 03:03:13 | <pabs> | can't afford to spend extra money at the moment |
| 03:03:24 | <steering> | it usually takes a good ~hour whenever I have to upgrade |
| 03:05:08 | <steering> | like 20 different packages and they each take a few minutes :P |
| 03:05:38 | <steering> | (and then qtwebengine comes along and takes as long for itself \o/ browsers are awesome) |
| 03:06:02 | <pabs> | browsers-- |
| 03:06:03 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'browsers' now has -2 karma! |
| 03:06:27 | <steering> | i need to reboot right now cuz of new nvidia drivers but so long as i don't close firefox its fine :P |
| 03:07:05 | <nicolas17> | I'm generating some bsdiff deltas and ugh it takes forever |
| 03:07:16 | <nicolas17> | and I can't run them as parallel as I wish |
| 03:07:39 | <nicolas17> | because the RAM usage is 17x the file size, so for the biggest files I can only run one at a time and waste the other CPU cores |
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| 03:40:18 | <nukke> | don't worry steering I will RCE your redis vulns and remotely reboot your PC >:) |
| 03:41:32 | <steering> | >redis |
| 03:41:40 | <steering> | thats about a decade too newfangled for me thanks |
| 03:51:20 | <nukke> | ok grandpa |
| 03:57:30 | <steering> | you'll never RCE my barely-maintained old software from the 00s written in the worst C imaginable! |
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| 04:34:59 | <steering> | ok, i guess im restarting... i turned off my (bt) headset and my (bt) mouse stopped working? lol |
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| 05:55:20 | <Hans5958> | Resurfacing old drama on -bs is crazy |
| 05:58:17 | <steering> | havent read yet but 🍿 here ya go |
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| 10:10:51 | <Hans5958> | Re. FUTO: Man, I swear, FUTO is a "too good to be true" stuff |
| 10:11:20 | <Hans5958> | I mean, Grayjay and that AOSP keyboard stuff looks good, but the fact that I watched Louis Rossmann and he really took huge part on it seems shady |
| 10:13:04 | <Hans5958> | I remember when Louis Rossmann is independent before joining FUTO, I couldn't really trust him anymore since FUTO would have some conflict of interest with him and vice versa |
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| 10:15:15 | <Hans5958> | Re. uutils: I can't believe Rust rewrites are still a thing |
| 10:15:24 | <Hans5958> | Do people even tired with it? |
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| 19:41:52 | <nicolas17> | Hans5958: uutils is good |
| 19:42:06 | <nicolas17> | but it's absolutely not ready to be deployed by default in a distro, wtf was Canonical thinking |
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| 20:44:09 | <nukke> | I genuinely appreciate Canonical's ballsiness with changes |
| 20:45:02 | <nukke> | OpenZFS is also a huge feature that no other distro was or is willing to touch |
| 20:46:02 | <nukke> | also in their defense, they set uutils as default for 25.10 which is not an LTS, and they also include a script to roll back to coreutils |
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