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01:00:47<nicolas17>https://www.osnews.com/story/143376/dark-patterns-killed-my-wifes-windows-11-installation/
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01:15:28<@JAA>Impressive
02:02:49<ymgve>this is why proper backups is important, so when microsoft decides to hose your PC like that, you can reinstall and restore your data if everything else fails
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02:10:27<@JAA>That's a funny way of spelling 'this is one of the many reasons why you shouldn't be using Windows'. :-)
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03:46:02<nukke>what's wrong with windows
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04:10:41<Fijxu|m><nukke> "what's wrong with windows" <- Is terrible
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07:52:06<masterx244|m>windows--
07:52:07<eggdrop>[karma] 'windows' now has -10 karma!
07:52:46<masterx244|m>yeah, too many annoyances and anti-features in W10 and W11. W11 pissed me off enough to ditch windows permanently
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08:03:14<BlankEclair>microsoft added so much spyware that i don't trust windows 10 with an internet connection
08:03:27<BlankEclair>i, however, let windows xp load websites w/ internet
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12:47:04<steering>and this is one among the many many reasons that i have staunchly refused to sign in to an MSA on my computer, even when it meant I had to call MS multiple times to reactivate a VM
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12:49:32<steering>>Windows 11 is a travesty, a loose collection of dark patterns and incompetence, run by people who have zero interest in lovingly crafting an operating system they can be proud of. Windows has become a vessel for subscriptions and ads, and cannot reasonably be considered anything other than a massive pile of user-hostile dark patterns designed to extract data, ad time, and subscription money from
12:49:39<steering>its users.
12:49:41<steering>great way to put it
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14:53:10<that_lurker>I wonder if there is a seperate team working on a new windows 13 with a new kernel and almost everything else as the current windows 10 and 11 changes have mainly been on the theme side of things
15:00:17<steering>mmh, I would phrase it UI rather than theme perhaps
15:00:47<steering>(thinking about control panel -> settings etc)
15:03:17<steering>Same for Windows 8 too, really. I doubt they're seriously working on anything else. I think the best I would hope for from MS is more along the lines of XP or Vista. Or in other words more of the same: new UIs, new driver architectures and such "behind the scenes" work, occasionally a couple of actually-valuable new features like UAC or somehting.
15:04:04<justauser|m>Windows++
15:04:04<justauser|m>I liked Win7.
15:04:04<eggdrop>[karma] 'Windows' now has -9 karma!
15:04:40<steering>Windows--
15:04:41<eggdrop>[karma] 'Windows' now has -10 karma!
15:04:53<steering>k but 7 is dead and gone
15:05:43<steering>(I liked 7 too, Vista upgraded XP in a lot of ways but was also awful in a lot of ways, 7 fixed most of it so it was actually better than the previous versions for once)
15:16:25<nukke>if windows is so bad how come all AD and Exchange servers are running windows? just curious 🤔
15:16:54<nukke>also a lot of people are complaining about MacOS26 that just came out too. seems like all OSs suck now
15:17:18<steering>nukke: I have a better question, if AD and Exchange as so bad how come all businesses are running them? just curious 🤔
15:17:35<nukke>steering++
15:17:35<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 49 karma!
15:18:08<nukke>my winbro
15:18:51<steering>also, I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as all AD server are not in fact all. I run samba. :D
15:19:10<nukke>Exchange, AD and Windows Server are arguably the highest job creators
15:19:15<steering>lol
15:22:44<nukke>virgin one-man linux graybeard at work vs chad 35-man windows team responsible for Exchange plus 50-man team just for Azure (not counting account executives)
15:24:18<steering>it's weird to think that I've been using linux for nearly 2 decades now. D:
15:24:27<nukke>damn you're old
15:24:32<steering>another ~2 decades and i'll be a graybeard too :(
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19:56:32<@JAA>It's always a funny feeling when you realise you've hit that 'oh, I've been doing that for over half my life now' spot.
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20:24:20<@JAA>Oh, I totally missed that this one cursed server reached 3000 days of uptime a little while back.
20:24:50<@JAA>Yes, it's been up for over 8 years.
20:26:17<@imer>oh
20:51:14<Guest>Windows--
20:51:15<eggdrop>[karma] 'Windows' now has -11 karma!
20:51:29<Guest>automatically updated and installed win11
20:51:57<Guest>you can revert to win10 but they take the option away after 10 days
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23:21:54<steering>JAA: yeah, I've had that for a few things now, soon to be "working" D:
23:22:09<steering>also, please reboot
23:22:52<steering>I think my longest ever was a bit over 1200 or something, everything was old, surprisingly that server only ever got pwnt by a weak password
23:23:33<@JAA>Not really in my control, and the only way this is getting powered off is for decomm, probably.
23:28:25<steering>f
23:29:34steering wonders how bad it'll be when it dies
23:29:34<steering>:P
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23:41:13<@JAA>Same
23:44:30<TheTechRobo>Is that the one that had the original Yahoo Answers project buried in one of the tmux tabs?
23:55:51<@JAA>s/had/has/, yes
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