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00:31:28<steering>https://github.com/techarohq/anubis/pull/1038#issuecomment-3222293280 also lol
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01:41:37<pabs>https://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2025/07/12/digital/games-preservation-floppy-disks-retro/
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06:27:39<BlankEclair>i accidentally figured out how to bypass yt's sign in block (i forgor i have ipv4 and ipv6, so i just forced ipv4)
06:27:48<BlankEclair>((and i'm under cgnat))
06:32:29<@JAA>Been there before, except in my case the CGNAT v4 was blocked while v6 worked fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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06:52:20<steering>🎶 and I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I ........ 've got my own ipv4
06:52:46<steering>(of course the flipside is that half the ISPs here still don't provide v6)
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12:33:36<nstrom|m>Unless I pay $15/mo extra for static IP I only get CGNAT IPv4 w/ no IPv6 :(
12:39:48<justauser|m>At $15/mo it looks cheaper to get the IP from some VPN? Even ignoring all the VPSes out there, including Oracle Cloud Free Tier.
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13:42:09<Yakov>CGNAT is no fun
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15:17:39<pabs>"The need to reliably preserve our community history" https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1034849/b51a4e61a561d098/
15:19:10<pabs>(Groklaw became a crypto spam site)
15:19:34<pabs>(AB never saved it)
15:20:32pabs wonders if we should mention AT in the LWN comments /cc JAA arkiver
15:21:26<@arkiver>i would definitely!
15:21:28<@arkiver>pabs:
15:21:30<@arkiver>^
15:21:34<@arkiver>if we can help, happy to :)
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15:49:21<pabs>arkiver: how is this https://paste.debian.net/hidden/d6a87821/
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15:52:40<@arkiver>pabs: perhaps in this case it would be fine to also save data they have that is not in danger
15:52:47<@arkiver>but otherwise, yes, good message
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15:53:50<pabs>ok I'll add a bit to the start about proactive saving too
15:55:49<pabs>arkiver: edited slightly https://paste.debian.net/hidden/259d8c11/
16:00:33<pabs>posted
16:07:22<justauser|m>I wouldn't be surprised if there is a policy in someone's mind on the right tradeoff between telling (more news, more Warriors) and not telling (less abuse, less people would IP-block AB just because).
16:13:41<@arkiver>justauser|m: yep
16:13:46<@arkiver>pabs: thanks!
16:13:48<@arkiver>let's see :)
16:14:12<pabs>also posted a ranty comment about dangers to digital history: https://lwn.net/Articles/1035326/
16:14:18<pabs>Significant dangers to digital history are deletionism, upgrades, migrations, shrinking communities, short memories and expiring browser histories. All of these mean resources can't be easily found on archive sites using their previous URLs. If folks notice signs of these, consider preventing those things at least until the resources can be archived, and getting the word out about the changes through LWN and other news sources.
16:14:28pabs grumbles about Debian deletionism
16:15:39<justauser|m>Deletionism for packages? Or for web contents?
16:17:29<pabs>the latter, they "cleaned up" the website, and want to do the same for the wiki
16:17:46<pabs>well, packages get deleted all the time too, but there is snapshot.d.o to preserve them
16:18:05<pabs>this is the main reason why I found ArchiveTeam
16:18:27<@arkiver>pabs: that is a pretty nice short summary actually of dangers
16:18:32@arkiver is afk for ~9 hours
16:19:25<justauser|m>Never heard of wiki dangers before. I guess AB job is already fired?
16:20:17<pabs>ah while ago yeah. MoinMoin sucks in AB though
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17:25:56<nicolas17>did y'all see that MIT paper (or the endless news articles about it) saying 95% of corporate AI deployments fail?
17:27:27<nicolas17>apparently the paper was written by a *different* group of grifters, who want you to buy their blockchain-based "agentic AI" shit, and the 5% of successes they report are using AI for... basically spam
17:27:29<nicolas17>https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/08/21/mit-on-enterprise-ai-95-failure-5-spam/
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18:27:39<Dango360>what a nice surprise https://www.groklaw.net/files/pdf4/applevsamsung-1876.pdf
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19:26:11<steering>welp, the domain for me and fireonlive's irc server is pendingDelete :'(
19:30:38<steering>also, /me just went down a like 3 hour rabbit hole reading up on SCO and Groklaw again
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20:03:17<Dango360>even google is case insensitive... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3lLtSnLoEo
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