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| 05:35:50 | <steering> | that_lurker: it's amazing how much money weather API providers think they should make for scraping other people's websites |
| 05:36:07 | <steering> | ("other people" such as the NWS here in the US) |
| 05:36:38 | <steering> | weatherstack is still lying on their signup page about their free API limits lol |
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| 05:38:22 | <steering> | I need to rewrite my bot to just parse the METAR and TAF from aviationweather.gov :P |
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| 12:26:15 | <steering> | oh for crying out loud, why is my password expiring (after ~90 days) just to access this company's support/documentation site??? |
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| 12:32:50 | <justauser|m> | I wonder if the corruption happened due to a bad kernel in Debian 12.3 |
| 12:33:53 | | justauser|m looks for release notes |
| 12:34:52 | <steering> | its not just a glibc update, right? |
| 12:35:03 | <steering> | https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Locale_data_changes |
| 12:39:13 | <steering> | hopefully not, https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/6696#issuecomment-575280941 (linked from blog post) mentions it and says it should be using LC_COLLATE=C... |
| 12:39:47 | <justauser|m> | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057843 |
| 12:41:36 | <steering> | how would that have replicated though? |
| 12:42:07 | <justauser|m> | It could have been happening on both, for example. |
| 12:42:25 | <justauser|m> | Announcement seems to imply identical configurations. |
| 12:50:13 | <steering> | yeah, that does sound plausible |
| 12:50:48 | <justauser|m> | Joined the room mentioned in the post. Syncing history... |
| 12:52:30 | <steering> | >But for some reason, it only seemed to affect state groups in the range 147M - 541M. (State group 541M was created in January 2021 |
| 12:53:11 | <steering> | So as I take it, it stopped happening then |
| 12:53:25 | <justauser|m> | We know for certain that corruption happened after January 2021 (or at least, that corruption was still ongoing at that point), since it affected state groups created at that time. And we know that it happened before July 2025, since corruption was present in the backup from the end of June. |
| 12:56:33 | <steering> | It seems to me more logical to assume that the corruption was happening at the time the indexes were created for those rows, i.e. up to 2021-01? |
| 12:57:34 | <justauser|m> | They think it was corrupting data at rest, not creating bad data. |
| 12:58:21 | <justauser|m> | What's more, we found state groups that must have been fine initially (say, on 2025-06-29) were now corrupt: in other words, this confirmed that the problem wasn't that we were creating new, invalid state groups, but there was a process somewhere in the system that was corrupting existing state groups. |
| 12:58:23 | <steering> | >Presumably, at some point in the past, we used to have lots of entries in state_groups_state for state group 353864583. Then, most of these entries were removed (likely by the state compressor), |
| 12:59:43 | <steering> | So, rather, it seems more logical ... time those rows were removed by the state compressor |
| 13:00:36 | <steering> | So I mean, I guess I agree with their conclusion really |
| 13:01:30 | <steering> | They know for certain it was between those two points, I'd say it's likely it happened earlier rather than later or surely it would've affected more rows though |
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| 13:52:43 | <justauser|m> | From reading some PgSQL docs it doesn't use O_DIRECT, which is necessary for the error to manifest. |
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| 17:19:39 | <nicolas17_> | "your server internalhostname.example.com has a wrong TLS certificate for publicsite.example.com" how is this even remotely a security vulnerability |
| 17:19:51 | <nicolas17_> | I want reverse security bounties, if your report is bullshit then *you* pay *us* |
| 17:22:14 | <ymgve> | welcome to AI slop reports |
| 17:22:58 | <justauser|m> | Needs a TTP to decide whether the report is shit. |
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| 17:30:40 | <justauser|m> | And sometimes it's hard to decide; refer to the curl CVE-something |
| 17:32:11 | <justauser|m> | https://curl.se/docs/CVE-2023-52071.html |
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| 21:57:08 | <nicolas17> | I just deleted hackint_#archivebot.log by accident |
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| 23:01:54 | <katia> | hmm :( backups? |
| 23:03:00 | <nicolas17> | yeah I restored it from a backup |
| 23:03:02 | <nicolas17> | I was confused at first |
| 23:03:12 | <nicolas17> | "this backup is too old, only has messages going back to July 21st" |
| 23:03:15 | <nicolas17> | "oh wait we are in July" |
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