| 00:01:01 | <nicolas17> | noes! |
| 00:05:31 | <nicolas17> | should've organized a party |
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| 04:49:28 | <mind_combatant> | does anyone know if the opposite of an hdmi dummy plug exists, in other words, a dongle-like device that you can plug into a monitor's hdmi port and nowhere else, and it gives it a valid, blank signal? |
| 04:49:48 | <steering> | yes |
| 04:49:58 | <steering> | oh wait I'm dumb and didn't actually read that |
| 04:50:33 | <steering> | ... why do you need such a thing :D |
| 05:01:02 | <mind_combatant> | i have a nextdock, which is really great for it's intended uses, but if i could give it a dummy hdmi signal, i could also use it for a few other useful things, like as a USB or bluetooth keyboard and trackpad (i can do this already, but only for 5 minutes at a time, after which, it goes to sleep due to thinking there's nothing connected because it's not receiving video) |
| 05:01:26 | <mind_combatant> | nexdock* |
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| 05:11:56 | <pabs> | plug in an RPi and run a minimal window manager? |
| 05:41:04 | <mind_combatant> | yeah, that's what i was considering, but then the pi needs to get power from somewhere, and i'd rather not use what few ports on the nexdock there are for that, or use a usb hub or battery pack, as that'd be getting more and more bulky and less portable. ideally, there'd be a device that is low-power enough and still able to generate a basic signal that it could run entirely off of the hdmi port alone. it /feels/ like that should be |
| 05:41:04 | <mind_combatant> | possible. |
| 05:44:57 | <nicolas17> | maybe there is a cheap enough something-to-HDMI adapter that gives a valid HDMI signal even when nothing is connected to its input |
| 05:46:29 | <mind_combatant> | hmm, that's a thought... |
| 05:51:41 | <nicolas17> | mind_combatant: ok it turns out what you want isn't directly possible |
| 05:51:48 | <mind_combatant> | the other option is i suppose if anyone has hacked the firmware of these nexdocks, but i haven't seen any efforts toward that online, sadly, and i'm not experienced enough to do that kind of thing from scratch, i don't think they even have a mechanism to officially update the firmware (plus i don't have enough spare money to buy replacements for any bricking i do were i to try hacking them). |
| 05:51:57 | <nicolas17> | devices can be powered from HDMI video sources |
| 05:52:08 | <nicolas17> | a monitor is not an HDMI source, it's an HDMI sink, it won't *provide* power over HDMI |
| 05:52:18 | <mind_combatant> | darn... |
| 05:52:39 | <nicolas17> | so a dummy plug can't get power from the monitor to generate the signal, you can't avoid needing USB or something to power it |
| 05:58:05 | <mind_combatant> | in that case, my thought is probably: what's the cheapest, lowest power thing that will generate a valid hdmi signal? does anyone know of any applicable projects for, like, a microcontroller, or would it still probably be best for an rpi 0, or maybe some cheap streaming dongle instead? |
| 06:03:24 | <pabs> | chromecast? |
| 06:04:49 | <nicolas17> | lowest power would be a rpi pico with a custom program generating the HDMI signal, but that would take work, and wiring it to an HDMI connector etc :P |
| 06:05:46 | <nicolas17> | I imagine you want something that already has HDMI output :P |
| 07:20:44 | <mind_combatant> | nicolas17: actually, that's kinda what i was thinking, but i was hoping someone would already have something written that i could just flash to it and wire up the connector. ah well, i could probably do it myself, or just use a chromecast or rpi or similar in the meantime. i do have a spare old chromecast at the moment, but it's surprisingly power-hungry, and i'd rather send a black screen if possible to use less power too. |
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| 15:23:45 | <that_lurker> | "X.Org Security Advisory: multiple security issues X.Org X server and Xwayland" - https://seclists.org/oss-sec/2025/q2/260 |
| 15:28:03 | <anonymoususer852> | bryan lunduke: |
| 15:31:28 | <nukke> | is Lunduke antiwayland? |
| 15:33:10 | <katia> | hi nukke |
| 15:33:21 | <katia> | dont worry babe, windows is not affected |
| 15:33:39 | <katia> | u still gotta patch tho its tuesday |
| 15:33:55 | <that_lurker> | oh yeah almost forgot |
| 15:35:32 | <nukke> | ummm no I don't :) my windows 8 workstation reached Final release so it no longer needs patches |
| 15:36:01 | <nukke> | [NSFW: language] https://www.latintimes.com/ice-protests-pop-roblox-kids-organize-virtual-demonstrations-frick-ice-585090 |
| 15:37:23 | <anonymoususer852> | lunduke is just stubborn over changes within Linux, https://lunduke.substack.com/p/convincing-a-linux-guy-to-use-freebsd |
| 15:42:17 | <katia> | nukke, pls talk to trix she wants to get into the insider fast lane for windows 11 |
| 15:42:46 | <kiska> | Looks like advin live migrated my VM and I don't need to restart any of my websocket listeners :D |
| 15:42:55 | <that_lurker> | hexa_: as lunduke fan #1 has that video made you switch from nixos to freebsd |
| 15:43:01 | <trix> | katia asked me what OS i wanted on my laptop |
| 15:43:08 | <trix> | i told her Windows 12 or macOS (2 year old) |
| 15:43:29 | <that_lurker> | trix: so windows vista |
| 15:44:41 | <nukke> | send me a copy of your eye pupils and fingerprint and I'll get you on the win12 program |
| 15:46:26 | <trix> | nukke: i already sent those to Mark Bezos |
| 15:49:38 | <hexa_> | should make lunduke links a bannable offense |
| 15:50:01 | <trix> | yes |
| 15:50:07 | <hexa_> | that_lurker: I'm stuck on wayland, so no, it has not. |
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| 15:50:30 | <hexa_> | also I am not following lundicks blog/youtube |
| 15:51:00 | <nukke> | what's wrong with Lunduke? |
| 15:51:13 | <nukke> | he's my hero. he sabotaged Open SUSE |
| 15:51:30 | <hexa_> | you for real? |
| 15:51:39 | <anonymoususer852> | https://lunduke.substack.com/p/every-linux-sucks-video-in-order |
| 15:52:15 | <nukke> | 👆 |
| 15:52:22 | <hexa_> | also very telling that an anonymous user posts these links |
| 15:52:29 | <anonymoususer852> | lunduke is more of a lolcow to me, dramatizing matters. |
| 15:52:39 | <hexa_> | he is |
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| 21:32:03 | <nukke> | It's the animal were ticklebones come from |
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