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06:32:22<pabs>https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/nas/synology-requires-self-branded-drives-for-some-consumer-nas-systems-drops-full-functionality-and-support-for-third-party-hdds
06:32:25<pabs>Synology--
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06:40:12<BlankEclair>synology wtf lol
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11:22:01<Blueacid>That's put Synonolgy on my shit list, why can't we have nice things? :(
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16:52:35<nukke>Synology has a TON of competition now though, so this isn't a bad thing
16:53:39<nukke>UGREEN has a very solid NAS line, Minisforum is coming out with a 5-bay one soon, there TerraMaster and Asustor also have competitive solutions
16:54:12<nukke>plus (chinese) NAS motherboards are pretty common nowadays, and NAS cases like the Jonsbo ones are cheap
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16:55:30<nukke>let me rephrase: it sucks that Synolgy is going this route but it's not the end of the world
16:55:46<nukke>oh and I forgot about the Unifi NAS too
16:55:58<katia>i like the ugreen nas. runs windows 7 like a champ
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17:07:28<that_lurker>katia: oh now I have to get one
17:07:48<that_lurker>though minisforum one sounds interesting as well
17:08:08<katia>i am not attached to the ugreen one. it was just on a good deal, and has good specs, and i can install what i want on it
17:09:41<that_lurker>well being broke helps me not to buy stuff :-) Need to save money so I can go to the next c3 with my frined
17:11:25<katia>!
17:14:49<that_lurker>¡
17:23:09<katia>that_lurker at 39c3 that_lurker at 39c3
17:23:52<that_lurker>that is the plan
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17:41:25<nukke>Yeah the ugreen I got is pretty good, though I can't get TrueNAS to read the temperature
17:42:52<katia>cpu-z.exe
17:43:04<katia>which one you got nukke?
17:53:02<nukke>dxp8800+
18:02:17<katia>i got the 6 bay one
18:04:57<that_lurker>im looking into that one too. My current synology has 2*4tb in raid 0 so kinda anything would be better :-P
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19:38:29<nukke>I like mine a lot. I replaced the stock SSD with an Optane boot drive.
19:38:58<nukke>very easy to take apart too
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21:46:08<@JAA>Hmm yeah, the Minisforum NAS look interesting (once you ignore the 'AI-ready' crap). Maybe it'll even come out before the end of 2026.
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21:53:59<nicolas17>plug some disks into a dozen SBCs and run ceph :P
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22:09:19<that_lurker>"Full Text Search of US Court records" https://www.judyrecords.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43731552
22:10:15<that_lurker>only one match for archiveteam
22:10:58<@JAA>Where bulk download? :-)
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22:17:37<nicolas17>https://groups.google.com/a/groups.cabforum.org/g/servercert-wg/c/bvWh5RN6tYI
22:17:38<nicolas17>starting 2026 CAs will no longer be able to issue certificates longer than about a month
22:19:31<that_lurker>yay
22:24:25<@JAA>2029, if I'm reading it correctly. 2026 is when the transition starts.
22:24:52<nicolas17>interesting to see who abstained
22:25:34<@JAA>https://sectigostore.com/blog/47-day-ssl-certificate-validity/ has a timeline, though not sure whether that's part of the proposal or just Sectigo's plan.
22:26:45<that_lurker>slowly going down to the session only certs
22:32:49<Barto>digicert has a blogpost too
22:33:16<Barto>https://www.digicert.com/blog/tls-certificate-lifetimes-will-officially-reduce-to-47-days
22:33:33<@JAA>Hmm yeah, same timeline there.
22:33:56<Barto>also, i've been telling that at work for the longest time, stop with your certificate pinning
22:34:29<Barto>we're heading to world with short lived keys, adding more process and complexity upon rotation will not help :(
22:34:51katia pins Barto
22:35:03<nicolas17>for reverse-engineering stuff on iOS, I found it really annoying to bypass certificate pinning so I can mitm, each app seems to do pinning in a different way and no patch covers all cases
22:35:38<nicolas17>so I made my own hook to log the session keys instead
22:35:56Barto deflates
22:35:56<Barto>you still have to give back my nose katia btw :(
22:37:22<that_lurker>https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/553
22:37:36<Barto>i also wonder how we're gonna do with the clients where we send them the csr :-) That's going to be fun
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22:41:59<katia>Barto, :--)
22:42:06<Barto>you thief!
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22:46:11<that_lurker>we need 47day ssh keys :-P
22:46:27<that_lurker>renew or lose access to your system
22:46:51<@JAA>47-day client certificates for IRC SASL!
22:47:51<nicolas17>that_lurker: that's a thing, but with certificates
22:48:34<that_lurker>nicolas17: true
22:48:35<nicolas17>so the server can trust the ssh CA
22:48:43<nicolas17>instead of each individual short-lived cert
22:49:56<Barto>lol
22:49:57<katia>short-lived CA
22:50:36<Barto>how old is my ssh key? 10 years? :p
22:50:59<Barto>we've a client with ssh certs signed through vault, works quite well actually
22:51:14<nicolas17>I never understood the point of vault
22:51:35<nicolas17>keeping credentials on the client is unsafe, put them in vault instead! okay how do you authenticate into vault?
22:51:38<Barto>well, at least it's not on a piece of paper
22:52:06<katia>nicolas17, vault has ways to generate short lived credentials
22:52:32<katia>https://openbao.org/docs/secrets/databases/postgresql/#usage
22:52:40<nicolas17>how do you authenticate into vault?
22:52:45<Barto>that reminds me the road i took last work spring with role ids and secret ids in the CI :-)
22:52:50<katia>an app token
22:52:50<Barto>sprint*
22:53:17<katia>https://openbao.org/docs/secrets/kubernetes/#generating-credentials
22:53:18<nicolas17>is that a long-lived credential?
22:53:20<katia>this token can also be shrot lived
22:53:46<nicolas17>what's openbao? fork of vault?
22:53:49<katia>yeah
22:53:59<Barto>i can agree that there are things in vault that makes me scratch my head a little bit, but that's down to the glue around it
22:54:31<Barto>i didnt know about openbao, it was created after the acquisition of hashicorp by ibm?
22:54:41<katia>yeah
22:54:51<Barto>okay, just like opentofu, nice
22:54:57<Barto>we've got backup plans
22:55:17<that_lurker>Linux Foundation++
22:55:17<eggdrop>[karma] 'Linux Foundation' now has 1 karma!
22:55:25<Barto>Linux Foundation++
22:55:25<eggdrop>[karma] 'Linux Foundation' now has 2 karma!
22:55:28<Barto>fireonlive++
22:55:28<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 955 karma!
22:55:33<katia>fireonlive++
22:55:34<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 956 karma!
22:55:48<that_lurker>fireonlive++
22:55:49<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 957 karma!
22:56:11that_lurker tries to tab completed that everytime :(
22:56:21<Barto>:'(
22:58:21<nicolas17>D:
23:04:17<nukke>TIL https://github.com/systemd/particleos
23:04:29<nukke>immutable distro by the systemd folks
23:04:49<nukke>systemd++
23:04:50<eggdrop>[karma] 'systemd' now has 0 karma!
23:11:22<katia>nukke, are you feeling well?
23:13:57<nukke>always
23:19:14<that_lurker>do you need a nice systemctl daemon-reload
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23:45:54<@JAA>By the way, formal ballot results: https://groups.google.com/a/groups.cabforum.org/g/servercert-wg/c/9768xgUUfhQ
23:46:35<that_lurker>always interesting to see the voter companies
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23:52:07<katia>ur face is interesting
23:53:03<@JAA>ω̈
23:53:35katia pets JAA
23:55:52<that_lurker>how is it 3am already. damn I messed up my sleep schedule fast
23:56:14<katia>me too thanks
23:56:52<@JAA>Same
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