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02:21:13<nukke>not surprising: https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1jowcms
02:21:18<nukke>>In a surprise move, Linus Torvalds has merged /dev/llm0 into Linux 6.16. This new character device responds to plain English prompts with context-aware code suggestions, shell pipelines, and sarcastic comments about your coding habits.
02:21:20<nukke>The merge commit message reads:
02:21:22<nukke>“As long as it doesn’t break userspace, I don’t care if it hallucinates.”
02:21:24<nukke>Early benchmarks show /dev/llm0 consumes 3GB RAM just to say “it depends.”
02:22:21<steering>wonderful
02:23:25<steering>i just want that to be an actual commit :D
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06:02:52<that_lurker>Any good April fools jokes this year?
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12:46:24<f_>that_lurker: #libera-APRIL
12:46:33<f_>https://libera.chat/news/burnout
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13:31:54<Sparky1492>What IRC bouncers and/or clients do you all recommend or what to say away from?
13:32:19<Sparky1492>i'm looking for a change, not to thrilled with what i'm using
13:32:43<LunarianBunny1147>what are you using right now?
13:33:10<Sparky1492>the lounge
13:33:58<LunarianBunny1147>hm, i've found the lounge to be quite painless for me, though i dont really talk that much, mainly just looking at past messages
13:34:38<LunarianBunny1147>im sure others will have better recommendations though
13:40:50<nukke>Sparky1492: been using Weechat (weechat-relay functionality) exclusively for almost 10 years now
13:41:19<nukke>Paired with glowing bear as a web client and weechat-android on mobile
14:01:44<f_>senpai + soju here
14:18:36<mete>Sparky1492: I'm on a selfhosted solution based on https://convos.chat , nothing special, but works
14:24:49<Sparky1492>Thank you for your feedback, i'll look into a couple of these a little deeper, and keep an eye out for others possibly posting as well. LunarianBunny1147 nukke f_ mete
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15:42:19<BornOn420>When theres only a TLD: https://www.ck/
15:46:31<@arkiver>i mean
15:46:35<@arkiver>there's a www there :P
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17:55:10<@JAA>Sparky1492, LunarianBunny1147: Re TL: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/User:JustAnotherArchivist/The_Lounge
17:55:30<@JAA>I run irssi in tmux on a server and SSH into it as needed.
17:55:41<LunarianBunny1147>interesting
17:55:45<LunarianBunny1147>will give this a read
17:56:25<@JAA>I should probably add to that page that TL has basically been unsupported for a coupld years now.
17:56:32<@JAA>couple*
17:56:49<LunarianBunny1147>i see
17:57:13<@JAA>It's not entirely abandoned, and I guess they'd fix security issues if any came up, but bugs have become features.
17:57:16<LunarianBunny1147>i might want to use something else then
17:59:07<@JAA>that_lurker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgxBHuUOmjA was a bit too obvious but not bad.
18:01:16<that_lurker>JAA: Oh yeah that was almost as good as the thing with go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0
18:01:54@JAA squints.
18:03:22<LunarianBunny1147>might give weechat a try, looks interesting
18:05:17<that_lurker>LunarianBunny1147: You can also easily get a webclient with weechat https://github.com/glowing-bear/glowing-bear
18:05:36<LunarianBunny1147>will give it a try
18:06:38<that_lurker>also if you have a server running a bouncer like znc in there is nice so you get chathistory
18:07:13<TheTechRobo>I just wish I could get TL's UI but have it connect to WeeChat like Glowing Bear.
18:07:45<@JAA>ZNC is ... eh.
18:08:52<katia>ZNC is the best thing ever right after kubernetes.
18:09:42<@JAA>It's kind of fragile when your connection is unstable.
18:10:48<that_lurker>unstable in client -> ZNC or ZNC -> server?
18:11:05<@JAA>The former
18:11:49<@JAA>I remember that you basically had to have logging enabled on ZNC's side to not lose messages in that case.
18:12:08<LunarianBunny1147>the all familiar feeling of being a beginner at stuff, but im willing to learn
18:12:09<@JAA>And check those logs whenever your connection dropped.
18:12:30<@JAA>It's part of why I moved away from a bouncer setup and just put my entire client on an always-on machine.
18:12:34<that_lurker>LunarianBunny1147: It is always fun to test different stuff :-)
18:12:44<LunarianBunny1147>mhm
18:13:08<that_lurker>JAA: Do you have per channel logging on irssi or do you just use scrollback history?
18:13:15<katia>JAA: how often do you update that client?
18:13:22katia ducks
18:14:04<@JAA>that_lurker: I have per-channel logs and also a raw log per server (via a custom script).
18:14:12<that_lurker>ooo
18:14:47@JAA aims at katia with his water gun.
18:15:12katia opens mouth
18:15:16<katia>hydrate me
18:15:31<that_lurker>at work I still have just irssi connecting to our internal irc server and in there some logging. Though there is custom stuff as well. Here I have soju and the backup irssi's running in different servers
18:15:35<@JAA>that_lurker: The 'server outgoing' signal was specifically added for this kind of purpose. :-)
18:16:37<@JAA>(I suggested it and wrote a first implementation, then it was rewritten in a better way by Nei.)
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18:17:04<katia>Internal irc server!
18:17:12<katia>I wish we had that.
18:17:39<that_lurker>we have had that since forever. Still hands down the easies way to communicate between teams :-)
18:17:52<@JAA>The channel logs are not entirely unambiguous. For example, #// ends up in a #__ file for obvious reasons, but that means logs from an actual #__ channel would end up in the same file.
18:17:57<katia>Yeah open a ticket at /join #0,0
18:18:33<@JAA>I've been meaning to look into whether there's a neat way to fix that.
18:18:44<katia>Run ZNC.
18:20:05<@JAA>How do other clients deal with slashes in the channel name?
18:20:34<that_lurker>lounge did something like that as werll if I remember correctly
18:20:54<@JAA>Oh, it doesn't just stuff it into a DB with an insane layout?
18:21:04<that_lurker>that is just a bonus
18:21:07<@JAA>Ah
18:21:12<katia>Lmao
18:21:50<that_lurker>soju seems to also do '#--'
18:22:47<katia>I feel like znc is good at this but I need to get to a computer to check
18:25:35<LunarianBunny1147>this feels like the first time i got stuck inside vim lol
18:26:00<@JAA>Just open another shell and `pkill -9 vim`. :-)
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18:26:27<anarcat>how's the client in soju?
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18:28:45<@JAA>that_lurker: https://mastodon.social/@iFixit/114263376609300795
18:29:22<that_lurker>ohh nice. That could go well with the "Installation sledgehammer" I have at work :-P
18:30:00<katia>nope. znc #// logs to #-- folder
18:30:21<katia>and if i join #-- it also goes to that file
18:32:10<@JAA>Easy solution: percent-encode channel names
18:35:14<katia>base64?
18:36:38<@JAA>Unary
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18:43:38<cluster>i think i got it working?
18:43:49<cluster>oh hey its using my server's username
18:43:51<cluster>nice
18:44:05<cluster>will have to figure out how to change that
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19:07:08<f_>anarcat: soju's been almost perfect for me
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19:22:58<katia>you mean your fork of soju
19:27:45<anarcat>f_: coming from which client before?
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19:28:15<anarcat>i've been using irssi for years at this point, if not decades, i tried weechat and before i was using bitchx, xchat, ircII, and probably others i'm forgetting
19:28:20<anarcat>there's quite a hall of fame here
19:29:18<TheTechRobo>JAA: TheLounge logs #// to #.log :-)
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19:29:41<@JAA>TheTechRobo: And # as well, I guess?
19:30:15<@JAA>(Yes, that's a valid channel name for anyone wondering. ChanServ doesn't like it though.)
19:30:26<TheTechRobo>Is that the empty channel or the zwsp?
19:30:36<@JAA>Empty, just #
19:30:53<@JAA>I'm guessing the ZWJ will make it into the filename?
19:30:58<@JAA>(It does with irssi.)
19:31:04<TheTechRobo>I can't tell which one it is in my channel selector to test :P
19:31:13<@JAA>lol
19:31:16<TheTechRobo>I have three channels displayed as # lol
19:31:26<@JAA>Huh, what's the third one?
19:31:49<TheTechRobo>#:3 goes to #_3.log , interestingly enough
19:32:11<@JAA>Yeah, same here
19:32:24<TheTechRobo><@JAA> Huh, what's the third one?
19:32:24<TheTechRobo>What a fantastic question!
19:32:28<@JAA>:-D
19:33:54<@JAA>Found them in your whois, let's see.
19:33:58<TheTechRobo>One appears to be U+200D, one is U+200B, one is empty
19:34:13<@JAA>Ah
19:34:38<TheTechRobo>so ZWJ and ZWSP
19:35:06<@JAA>Didn't know the latter existed. I'm only sitting on the ZWJ.
19:35:31<TheTechRobo>Looks like it's just me and ho.ok54321
19:36:10<@JAA>#‍ confirmed better than #​ then.
19:36:28<@JAA>It's even registered!
19:37:27<TheTechRobo>and yeah, looks like TL passes through the unicode
19:39:12<f_>anarcat: coming from weechat->irssi->catgirl->soju/senpai->weechat->soju/senpai
19:54:59<katia>weechat++
19:55:00<eggdrop>[karma] 'weechat' now has 4 karma!
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20:03:57<LunarianBunny1147>i think i got weechat and glowing bear setup correctly now?
20:05:22<LunarianBunny1147>hopfully the crontab also starts it up correctly too
20:06:17<katia>hello fellow weechat user
20:06:24<LunarianBunny1147>hiya!
20:06:30<katia>where are the other 1146 lunarian bunnies
20:06:40<LunarianBunny1147>space
20:07:08<katia>hmm..
20:08:14<LunarianBunny1147>i just swapped to weechat & glowing bear after JAA sent that userpage about thelounge
20:08:35<LunarianBunny1147>so im still trying to learn how everything works :)
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20:13:15<katia>oh that is good
20:13:43<LunarianBunny1147>ye
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20:15:16<LunarianBunny1147>i should test if the autoreboot thing i did actually works
20:15:25<LunarianBunny1147>one moment while i do that
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20:16:40<LunarianBunny1147>hooray it does :D
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20:26:36<nicolas17>hello archivists
20:26:44<katia>hello archivist
20:26:55<nicolas17>apparently many new Switch 2 physical games won't be physical games anymore
20:27:06<katia>go figure
20:27:18<nicolas17>it will be a physical license key so the console will have to download the actual game data from the internet
20:27:55<katia>charge the water gun, JAA
20:28:21<nicolas17>the advantage over a digital purchase is you can give that physical key to someone else and then they can play and you can't, just like with a physical game
20:28:24<nicolas17>but the data is not in it
20:29:29<nukke>Prices also went up for both games and the console :D
20:30:01<nicolas17>nukke: it's also unclear if in the US it already has future tariffs priced in
20:30:29<nukke>please do not say that word in front of me ever again or I will cry
20:30:54<katia>US US US US US US US
20:30:54@JAA whispers 'Windows' into nukke's ear to calm them down.
20:31:18<nukke>th-thanks 😢
20:31:45<katia>C V E - 2 0 2 5 - 2 1 2 9 8
20:31:57<nukke>w-will you join my AD domain?
20:32:17<nicolas17>>AD
20:32:33<@JAA>lol
20:32:41<that_lurker>nukke: Can I join if I have non EOL devices
20:34:15<glassy>wait so the Switch2 will it even have a cartridge bay
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20:34:22<glassy>i hate the thought of digital only games
20:35:30<nicolas17>glassy: afaik it will have a slot where you can insert either an actual physical game that has physical storage with the game, or you can insert a physical "game key"
20:36:26<glassy>i miss CeX (UK gamestop)
20:37:01<nicolas17>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GniZnKpXwAAHJ1R.png
20:44:40<katia>wow... game key... evil
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20:48:18<that_lurker>new hardware larger game file sizes and easier to manage updates. Also this way it is still easier to buy the games to kids
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20:54:30<nicolas17>that_lurker: higher performance needs too
20:54:47<nicolas17>apparently to expand storage you now need a SD Express card
20:55:26<nicolas17>physical game cards would also need higher-performance storage probably
20:56:03<nicolas17>a smartcard with a key is cheaper (for them)
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21:05:48<@imer>glassy: cex is still a thing isn't it? still got a bunch of stores around ~locally
21:07:13<glassy>oh didnt know you were UK based, yeah they still about just quieter
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21:26:27<Sparky1492>JAA Thank you for the linked information and also too you others that have added your comments. Much appreciated!
21:26:27<Sparky1492>Now to narrow it down between WeeChat and Irssi
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22:58:08<nukke>irssi is great if you're 50+yo and still think sysvinit is better than systemd
23:04:11<@JAA>systemd's core is alright. I just don't get why it tries to be everything else, too.
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