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02:21:13 | <nukke> | not surprising: https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1jowcms |
02:21:18 | <nukke> | >In a surprise move, Linus Torvalds has merged /dev/llm0 into Linux 6.16. This new character device responds to plain English prompts with context-aware code suggestions, shell pipelines, and sarcastic comments about your coding habits. |
02:21:20 | <nukke> | The merge commit message reads: |
02:21:22 | <nukke> | “As long as it doesn’t break userspace, I don’t care if it hallucinates.” |
02:21:24 | <nukke> | Early benchmarks show /dev/llm0 consumes 3GB RAM just to say “it depends.” |
02:22:21 | <steering> | wonderful |
02:23:25 | <steering> | i just want that to be an actual commit :D |
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06:02:52 | <that_lurker> | Any good April fools jokes this year? |
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12:46:24 | <f_> | that_lurker: #libera-APRIL |
12:46:33 | <f_> | https://libera.chat/news/burnout |
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13:31:54 | <Sparky1492> | What IRC bouncers and/or clients do you all recommend or what to say away from? |
13:32:19 | <Sparky1492> | i'm looking for a change, not to thrilled with what i'm using |
13:32:43 | <LunarianBunny1147> | what are you using right now? |
13:33:10 | <Sparky1492> | the lounge |
13:33:58 | <LunarianBunny1147> | hm, i've found the lounge to be quite painless for me, though i dont really talk that much, mainly just looking at past messages |
13:34:38 | <LunarianBunny1147> | im sure others will have better recommendations though |
13:40:50 | <nukke> | Sparky1492: been using Weechat (weechat-relay functionality) exclusively for almost 10 years now |
13:41:19 | <nukke> | Paired with glowing bear as a web client and weechat-android on mobile |
14:01:44 | <f_> | senpai + soju here |
14:18:36 | <mete> | Sparky1492: I'm on a selfhosted solution based on https://convos.chat , nothing special, but works |
14:24:49 | <Sparky1492> | Thank you for your feedback, i'll look into a couple of these a little deeper, and keep an eye out for others possibly posting as well. LunarianBunny1147 nukke f_ mete |
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15:42:19 | <BornOn420> | When theres only a TLD: https://www.ck/ |
15:46:31 | <@arkiver> | i mean |
15:46:35 | <@arkiver> | there's a www there :P |
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17:55:10 | <@JAA> | Sparky1492, LunarianBunny1147: Re TL: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/User:JustAnotherArchivist/The_Lounge |
17:55:30 | <@JAA> | I run irssi in tmux on a server and SSH into it as needed. |
17:55:41 | <LunarianBunny1147> | interesting |
17:55:45 | <LunarianBunny1147> | will give this a read |
17:56:25 | <@JAA> | I should probably add to that page that TL has basically been unsupported for a coupld years now. |
17:56:32 | <@JAA> | couple* |
17:56:49 | <LunarianBunny1147> | i see |
17:57:13 | <@JAA> | It's not entirely abandoned, and I guess they'd fix security issues if any came up, but bugs have become features. |
17:57:16 | <LunarianBunny1147> | i might want to use something else then |
17:59:07 | <@JAA> | that_lurker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgxBHuUOmjA was a bit too obvious but not bad. |
18:01:16 | <that_lurker> | JAA: Oh yeah that was almost as good as the thing with go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0 |
18:01:54 | | @JAA squints. |
18:03:22 | <LunarianBunny1147> | might give weechat a try, looks interesting |
18:05:17 | <that_lurker> | LunarianBunny1147: You can also easily get a webclient with weechat https://github.com/glowing-bear/glowing-bear |
18:05:36 | <LunarianBunny1147> | will give it a try |
18:06:38 | <that_lurker> | also if you have a server running a bouncer like znc in there is nice so you get chathistory |
18:07:13 | <TheTechRobo> | I just wish I could get TL's UI but have it connect to WeeChat like Glowing Bear. |
18:07:45 | <@JAA> | ZNC is ... eh. |
18:08:52 | <katia> | ZNC is the best thing ever right after kubernetes. |
18:09:42 | <@JAA> | It's kind of fragile when your connection is unstable. |
18:10:48 | <that_lurker> | unstable in client -> ZNC or ZNC -> server? |
18:11:05 | <@JAA> | The former |
18:11:49 | <@JAA> | I remember that you basically had to have logging enabled on ZNC's side to not lose messages in that case. |
18:12:08 | <LunarianBunny1147> | the all familiar feeling of being a beginner at stuff, but im willing to learn |
18:12:09 | <@JAA> | And check those logs whenever your connection dropped. |
18:12:30 | <@JAA> | It's part of why I moved away from a bouncer setup and just put my entire client on an always-on machine. |
18:12:34 | <that_lurker> | LunarianBunny1147: It is always fun to test different stuff :-) |
18:12:44 | <LunarianBunny1147> | mhm |
18:13:08 | <that_lurker> | JAA: Do you have per channel logging on irssi or do you just use scrollback history? |
18:13:15 | <katia> | JAA: how often do you update that client? |
18:13:22 | | katia ducks |
18:14:04 | <@JAA> | that_lurker: I have per-channel logs and also a raw log per server (via a custom script). |
18:14:12 | <that_lurker> | ooo |
18:14:47 | | @JAA aims at katia with his water gun. |
18:15:12 | | katia opens mouth |
18:15:16 | <katia> | hydrate me |
18:15:31 | <that_lurker> | at work I still have just irssi connecting to our internal irc server and in there some logging. Though there is custom stuff as well. Here I have soju and the backup irssi's running in different servers |
18:15:35 | <@JAA> | that_lurker: The 'server outgoing' signal was specifically added for this kind of purpose. :-) |
18:16:37 | <@JAA> | (I suggested it and wrote a first implementation, then it was rewritten in a better way by Nei.) |
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18:17:04 | <katia> | Internal irc server! |
18:17:12 | <katia> | I wish we had that. |
18:17:39 | <that_lurker> | we have had that since forever. Still hands down the easies way to communicate between teams :-) |
18:17:52 | <@JAA> | The channel logs are not entirely unambiguous. For example, #// ends up in a #__ file for obvious reasons, but that means logs from an actual #__ channel would end up in the same file. |
18:17:57 | <katia> | Yeah open a ticket at /join #0,0 |
18:18:33 | <@JAA> | I've been meaning to look into whether there's a neat way to fix that. |
18:18:44 | <katia> | Run ZNC. |
18:20:05 | <@JAA> | How do other clients deal with slashes in the channel name? |
18:20:34 | <that_lurker> | lounge did something like that as werll if I remember correctly |
18:20:54 | <@JAA> | Oh, it doesn't just stuff it into a DB with an insane layout? |
18:21:04 | <that_lurker> | that is just a bonus |
18:21:07 | <@JAA> | Ah |
18:21:12 | <katia> | Lmao |
18:21:50 | <that_lurker> | soju seems to also do '#--' |
18:22:47 | <katia> | I feel like znc is good at this but I need to get to a computer to check |
18:25:35 | <LunarianBunny1147> | this feels like the first time i got stuck inside vim lol |
18:26:00 | <@JAA> | Just open another shell and `pkill -9 vim`. :-) |
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18:26:27 | <anarcat> | how's the client in soju? |
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18:28:45 | <@JAA> | that_lurker: https://mastodon.social/@iFixit/114263376609300795 |
18:29:22 | <that_lurker> | ohh nice. That could go well with the "Installation sledgehammer" I have at work :-P |
18:30:00 | <katia> | nope. znc #// logs to #-- folder |
18:30:21 | <katia> | and if i join #-- it also goes to that file |
18:32:10 | <@JAA> | Easy solution: percent-encode channel names |
18:35:14 | <katia> | base64? |
18:36:38 | <@JAA> | Unary |
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18:43:38 | <cluster> | i think i got it working? |
18:43:49 | <cluster> | oh hey its using my server's username |
18:43:51 | <cluster> | nice |
18:44:05 | <cluster> | will have to figure out how to change that |
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19:07:08 | <f_> | anarcat: soju's been almost perfect for me |
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19:22:58 | <katia> | you mean your fork of soju |
19:27:45 | <anarcat> | f_: coming from which client before? |
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19:28:15 | <anarcat> | i've been using irssi for years at this point, if not decades, i tried weechat and before i was using bitchx, xchat, ircII, and probably others i'm forgetting |
19:28:20 | <anarcat> | there's quite a hall of fame here |
19:29:18 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: TheLounge logs #// to #.log :-) |
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19:29:41 | <@JAA> | TheTechRobo: And # as well, I guess? |
19:30:15 | <@JAA> | (Yes, that's a valid channel name for anyone wondering. ChanServ doesn't like it though.) |
19:30:26 | <TheTechRobo> | Is that the empty channel or the zwsp? |
19:30:36 | <@JAA> | Empty, just # |
19:30:53 | <@JAA> | I'm guessing the ZWJ will make it into the filename? |
19:30:58 | <@JAA> | (It does with irssi.) |
19:31:04 | <TheTechRobo> | I can't tell which one it is in my channel selector to test :P |
19:31:13 | <@JAA> | lol |
19:31:16 | <TheTechRobo> | I have three channels displayed as # lol |
19:31:26 | <@JAA> | Huh, what's the third one? |
19:31:49 | <TheTechRobo> | #:3 goes to #_3.log , interestingly enough |
19:32:11 | <@JAA> | Yeah, same here |
19:32:24 | <TheTechRobo> | <@JAA> Huh, what's the third one? |
19:32:24 | <TheTechRobo> | What a fantastic question! |
19:32:28 | <@JAA> | :-D |
19:33:54 | <@JAA> | Found them in your whois, let's see. |
19:33:58 | <TheTechRobo> | One appears to be U+200D, one is U+200B, one is empty |
19:34:13 | <@JAA> | Ah |
19:34:38 | <TheTechRobo> | so ZWJ and ZWSP |
19:35:06 | <@JAA> | Didn't know the latter existed. I'm only sitting on the ZWJ. |
19:35:31 | <TheTechRobo> | Looks like it's just me and ho.ok54321 |
19:36:10 | <@JAA> | # confirmed better than # then. |
19:36:28 | <@JAA> | It's even registered! |
19:37:27 | <TheTechRobo> | and yeah, looks like TL passes through the unicode |
19:39:12 | <f_> | anarcat: coming from weechat->irssi->catgirl->soju/senpai->weechat->soju/senpai |
19:54:59 | <katia> | weechat++ |
19:55:00 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'weechat' now has 4 karma! |
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20:03:57 | <LunarianBunny1147> | i think i got weechat and glowing bear setup correctly now? |
20:05:22 | <LunarianBunny1147> | hopfully the crontab also starts it up correctly too |
20:06:17 | <katia> | hello fellow weechat user |
20:06:24 | <LunarianBunny1147> | hiya! |
20:06:30 | <katia> | where are the other 1146 lunarian bunnies |
20:06:40 | <LunarianBunny1147> | space |
20:07:08 | <katia> | hmm.. |
20:08:14 | <LunarianBunny1147> | i just swapped to weechat & glowing bear after JAA sent that userpage about thelounge |
20:08:35 | <LunarianBunny1147> | so im still trying to learn how everything works :) |
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20:13:15 | <katia> | oh that is good |
20:13:43 | <LunarianBunny1147> | ye |
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20:15:16 | <LunarianBunny1147> | i should test if the autoreboot thing i did actually works |
20:15:25 | <LunarianBunny1147> | one moment while i do that |
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20:16:40 | <LunarianBunny1147> | hooray it does :D |
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20:26:36 | <nicolas17> | hello archivists |
20:26:44 | <katia> | hello archivist |
20:26:55 | <nicolas17> | apparently many new Switch 2 physical games won't be physical games anymore |
20:27:06 | <katia> | go figure |
20:27:18 | <nicolas17> | it will be a physical license key so the console will have to download the actual game data from the internet |
20:27:55 | <katia> | charge the water gun, JAA |
20:28:21 | <nicolas17> | the advantage over a digital purchase is you can give that physical key to someone else and then they can play and you can't, just like with a physical game |
20:28:24 | <nicolas17> | but the data is not in it |
20:29:29 | <nukke> | Prices also went up for both games and the console :D |
20:30:01 | <nicolas17> | nukke: it's also unclear if in the US it already has future tariffs priced in |
20:30:29 | <nukke> | please do not say that word in front of me ever again or I will cry |
20:30:54 | <katia> | US US US US US US US |
20:30:54 | | @JAA whispers 'Windows' into nukke's ear to calm them down. |
20:31:18 | <nukke> | th-thanks 😢 |
20:31:45 | <katia> | C V E - 2 0 2 5 - 2 1 2 9 8 |
20:31:57 | <nukke> | w-will you join my AD domain? |
20:32:17 | <nicolas17> | >AD |
20:32:33 | <@JAA> | lol |
20:32:41 | <that_lurker> | nukke: Can I join if I have non EOL devices |
20:34:15 | <glassy> | wait so the Switch2 will it even have a cartridge bay |
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20:34:22 | <glassy> | i hate the thought of digital only games |
20:35:30 | <nicolas17> | glassy: afaik it will have a slot where you can insert either an actual physical game that has physical storage with the game, or you can insert a physical "game key" |
20:36:26 | <glassy> | i miss CeX (UK gamestop) |
20:37:01 | <nicolas17> | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GniZnKpXwAAHJ1R.png |
20:44:40 | <katia> | wow... game key... evil |
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20:48:18 | <that_lurker> | new hardware larger game file sizes and easier to manage updates. Also this way it is still easier to buy the games to kids |
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20:54:30 | <nicolas17> | that_lurker: higher performance needs too |
20:54:47 | <nicolas17> | apparently to expand storage you now need a SD Express card |
20:55:26 | <nicolas17> | physical game cards would also need higher-performance storage probably |
20:56:03 | <nicolas17> | a smartcard with a key is cheaper (for them) |
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21:05:48 | <@imer> | glassy: cex is still a thing isn't it? still got a bunch of stores around ~locally |
21:07:13 | <glassy> | oh didnt know you were UK based, yeah they still about just quieter |
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21:26:27 | <Sparky1492> | JAA Thank you for the linked information and also too you others that have added your comments. Much appreciated! |
21:26:27 | <Sparky1492> | Now to narrow it down between WeeChat and Irssi |
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22:58:08 | <nukke> | irssi is great if you're 50+yo and still think sysvinit is better than systemd |
23:04:11 | <@JAA> | systemd's core is alright. I just don't get why it tries to be everything else, too. |
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