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00:02:04<nukke>huh, are ZFS special devices that new? I'm asking deepseek r1 about them and it's confused.
00:02:30<nukke>I even specified zfs metadata device but it has no clue
00:07:56<@imer>sounds like ai alright, anything niche enough will just confuse the heck out of it
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01:06:34<nukke>https://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/4342/dark-horse-digital-closing
01:06:52<nukke>>Users are encouraged to download the books in their bookshelves by March 30, 2025. The ability to download to your device cannot be guaranteed after that date. For access through the website, users without DHD accounts should create one and sync it to the app by March 30, 2025.
01:06:59<nukke>didn't see this posted on #archiveteam yet
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01:20:08<@JAA>nukke: This is the off-topic channel.
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01:25:27<nukke>JAA: I posted here because I don't think there's anything AT can archiev.
01:25:45<nukke>it's a per-user thing as was the kindle thing
01:29:06<@JAA>nukke: Well, there's a website to archive at least.
01:29:31<nukke>FINE! ugh >:( I was being lazy
01:29:57<nukke>JAA++
01:29:57<eggdrop>[karma] 'JAA' now has 220 karma!
01:30:02<@JAA>:-)
01:30:03<@JAA>nukke++
01:30:04<eggdrop>[karma] 'nukke' now has -1 karma!
01:30:08<@JAA>lol
01:30:09<nukke>wtf
01:30:23<nukke>I blame fire
01:30:25<nukke>fireonlive++
01:30:26<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 906 karma!
01:30:44<@JAA>Probably too much Windows shilling or something.
01:30:58<@JAA>fireonlive++
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02:35:02<NatTheCat>I've had enough of the old client's nonsense, refusing to load things. hopefully this wont have the same issue lol.
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03:24:42<@JAA>NatTheCat: What clients, and what did it fail to load?
03:25:10<NatTheCat>"Convos", and it just kept repeatedly refusing to load channel history.
03:27:58<@JAA>Ah, I think I remember someone ranting about that one somewhere before. Not sure where or who that was though, nor the details.
03:30:05<NatTheCat>fair. it seemed like a reasonable option initially, and worked fine at first.
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04:23:23<pabs>TIL jq for markdown https://github.com/yshavit/mdq https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43152704
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05:31:16<nukke>that_lurker: https://www.xmox.nl/
05:32:24<nukke>beautiful website too
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05:37:17<that_lurker|m>Ohh that looks interesting
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05:41:58<@JAA>Nice
05:42:30<@JAA>Tangentially, while looking for comments on this, I found this gem on the orange site:
05:42:33<@JAA>> Matrix looks like it could eventually be a good replacement for email.
05:42:50<@JAA>f_: ^ :-)
05:44:38<nukke>email should really be JSON
05:50:09<steering>oh jeebus
05:50:49<that_lurker>nukke: so jmap
05:50:56<@JAA>They also have this minimal, functional, neat image registry: https://r.xmox.nl/
05:51:27<@JAA>https://github.com/mjl-/vex
05:51:49<nukke>that_lurker: oh wtf, it's real?!
05:52:48<nukke>>Stalwart Mail Server is a scalable open-source mail server written in Rust with full support for JMAP Core, JMAP Mail, JMAP over WebSocket at IMAP4rev2.[16]
05:52:50<nukke>RIP
05:53:33<@JAA>https://jmap.io/
05:53:50<steering>idgi the whole
05:53:55<steering>"email is hard because running a mailserver is hard"
05:54:03<steering>anyone can follow a guide online
05:54:14<@JAA>Also, Stalwart is more like open-core now.
05:54:43<steering>email is hard because the big folks won't let you send to them reliably unless you're also a big folk, and everyone else uses the big folks
05:57:22<that_lurker>and even that is not the case if your ip is clean and only a couple of people send emails
05:58:37<that_lurker>and you have set up dmarc, DKIM and SPF
06:00:37<steering>eh
06:00:46<steering>it is.
06:00:59<steering>heck sometimes it's even the case if you are using one of the big folks
06:01:54<steering>but it definitely seems much more common to me to have deliverability issues when not running through say google or ms
06:02:01<steering>(or amazon or mailwhoever etc)
06:02:13<steering>(and like 3/4 of the mailwhoevers just use amazon anyway)
06:18:20<@imer>its fine 99% of the time, but oh boy if it breaks because some stupid idiot clicked "spam" on the confirmation email after signing up to your thing
06:18:20<@imer>or god forbid they enter garbage like "a@bigprovider.tld" where a is a honeypot mailbox (yes, this actually happened.) - straight to purgatory
06:19:10<@imer>and then you gotta try to manually email them if thats even an option and beg for forgiveness
06:19:35@imer still self hosts email
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06:26:24<steering>imer: yes, exactly :)
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10:57:56<f_>JAA: oh come on
10:58:22<f_>It already fails as an instant messaging protocol and you're telling be it can be a replacement for email?
10:58:29<f_>no thanks
10:58:31<f_>I'm out!
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14:39:57<altrosky_mystique>Certainly been a while since i did archiveteam stuff :D, 3-4 years, heh
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16:50:41<AK>Yeah been a while 😂
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16:58:00<altrosky_mystique>sheesh
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16:58:43<NatTheCat>phew
16:58:56<NatTheCat>they have the logs 🤭
17:04:40<BornOn420>steering There's was an article in a Dutch newspaper just about that, the dependency created on using the big US broligrach providers: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2025/01/22/een-eigen-e-mailserver-om-niet-afhankelijk-te-zijn-van-big-tech-a4880536
17:05:39<BornOn420>I featured the sysadmin of https://www.nikhef.nl who out of principle runs their own internal server, with more and more effort
17:05:47<BornOn420>*It
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17:31:11<nicolas17>https://bsky.app/profile/delbertgseasons.bsky.social/post/3liyahtcc322o
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18:23:18<nukke>anyone here know anyone working at Rackspace?
18:32:43<nukke>https://event.frame.work/
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18:39:15<nukke>Framework 13 with a Strix Halo CPU
18:40:07<that_lurker>sound like amd cpu?
18:40:14<that_lurker>s/sound/sounds
18:43:24<nukke>yeah, it's the AMD Ryzen AI Max+ HX 395
18:43:30<nukke>how did you not know
18:45:25<nukke>Framework 16 now has a mech keyboard :O
18:45:41<nukke>ortholinear layout on a laptop
18:51:02<anarcat>a demo of
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18:55:24<katia>nukke, maybe
18:58:22<nukke>Here comes the price
18:58:40<nukke>Dang $2000 for 128GB
18:59:40<nukke>:o you can cluster them
18:59:54<katia>typing on my framework laptop rn
19:00:01<katia>hbu nukke
19:00:23<katia>got your windows 11 on the surface all patched up?
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19:01:52<nukke>I would patch it but Norton AV causes the CPU to go to 100% when I try to update and then it crashes
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19:05:08<that_lurker>wait is Framework making tower pc's now as well :-O
19:05:25<@JAA>If you call that tiny box a tower, I guess.
19:05:55<that_lurker>ahh yeah just saw how tiny it is
19:05:57<NatTheCat>ikr haha
19:06:11<that_lurker>I really should watch the stream with audio :-P
19:06:51<nukke>its a standard ITX motherboard
19:07:07<nukke>$2000 USD for 128GB which is pretty insane
19:07:15<nukke>But Q3 ship date
19:11:25<anarcat>nukke: insane as in good?
19:11:30<anarcat>i'm losing track of pricing
19:11:37<anarcat>128GB is insane, regardless of the price, in my book
19:11:42<anarcat>my first hard drive was 20MB
19:11:47<@JAA>But AI!!1!
19:12:07<nukke>The only other equivalent is a Mac Studio with 128GB for 4000+ USD
19:12:36<nukke>otherwise the new Mac Mini but that maxes out at 64GB and those configurations are like 2500USD
19:12:41<anarcat>right
19:13:11<nukke>Or two RTX 5090s for 4000-5000USD
19:13:32<nukke>(But also 1.2kWh)
19:14:07<nukke>The Framework tops out at 150W and can do 70B models
19:15:56<katia>omfg framework12
19:15:59<katia>i need this
19:16:30<anarcat>ikr
19:16:34<anarcat>pre-order in april though
19:16:40<katia>;;;;;
19:16:41<anarcat>i don't understand if it's the same board too
19:17:14<katia>doubt it
19:17:27<anarcat>yeah
19:17:30<anarcat>they would have mentioned it
19:19:57<@JAA>I mean, Intel CPU, so it can't really be the same board?
19:20:25<anarcat>framework has intel CPUs
19:21:23<@JAA>On the same board as AMD CPUs?
19:21:36<@JAA>How would that even work?
19:21:45<anarcat>it's not the same board
19:21:51<anarcat>they have different boards
19:21:53<@JAA>Yeah
19:21:55<anarcat>the point is they all fit in the same case
19:21:59<anarcat>and are interchangeable
19:22:00<@JAA>Right
19:23:19<nukke>managed to put in a pre-order, nice 😎
19:23:37<nukke>I asked for a second copy of Windows 11 as well
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19:58:35@JAA waves in the general direction of the Matrix bridge users.
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20:27:43<f_>that_lurker|m uses matrix?
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20:32:41<that_lurker>it was my backup. But now I use it just because katia loves matrix so much
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20:36:43<f_[m]>@that_lurker:hackint.org heh
20:36:58<f_>that looks awful oof
20:37:16<f_>><f_[m]> @that_lurker:hackint.org heh
20:38:13<@JAA>Imagine using @ for referencing someone.
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20:40:04<steering>lol
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20:40:51<steering>I just wanna know how big it is :P
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20:42:59<f_>JAA: imagine matrix sending the virtual matrix id for an IRC user for mentioning said IRC user
20:43:18katocala joins
20:43:52<f_[m]>>appservice-irc sent org.matrix.appservice-irc.connection state event
20:43:52<f_[m]>:D:D:D:D:D
20:45:07<steering>ok why does its case remind me of OVH's meltycenter?
20:46:09<steering>https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/02/FWDesktop-Hero-LeftSide-AllColorTile.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&crop=0%2C0%2C100%2C100&w=750 https://regmedia.co.uk/2021/03/22/ovh_strasbourg_fire_shutterstock_editorial_only.jpg
20:51:36<that_lurker>lol it actually does look a lot like that :-P
20:51:51<myself>Oh, wow.
20:52:12<@JAA>lol
20:55:16<f_[m]>heh
20:55:23<f_[m]>@JAA:hackint.org you love my matrix pings amirite?
20:55:40<f_>🤮
20:56:11<@JAA>Hmm, entirely unrelatedly, I wonder how the bridge handles kicks...
20:56:26<f_>JAA: it handles them okay
20:56:32<f_>surprisingly
20:56:48<f_>(sends a kick on matrix)
20:56:54<@JAA>Huh
20:57:01<f_>The right question to ask is how the bridge handles bans instead :p
20:57:21<f_>And the response is, not that good
20:57:29<f_>Feel free to try :p
20:58:02<@JAA>Just the ban, or a kickban?
20:58:10<f_>ban only first
20:58:17@JAA sets mode: +b *!*fundersco@fd1a:6295:5133::*
20:58:28<f_>Matrix side: *crickets*
20:58:53<@JAA>Let me guess, if you send a message, the Matrix users will still see it?
20:58:59<f_>exactly :p
20:59:02<@JAA>lol
20:59:20<f_>You don't even get any message coming from the bridge about your messages not getting sent lol
20:59:28<f_>nothing
20:59:30<@JAA>Amazing
20:59:45<f_>the b in matrix means bug-free
20:59:55<f_>just so you know
21:00:21<@JAA>Naturally
21:00:34<f_>JAA: +q has the same effect btw
21:00:41<@JAA>Lovely
21:01:02<f_>Thanks to the matrix bridge IRC moderation is made easier
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21:04:53<@JAA>Seems that Matrix has no concept of quieting?
21:05:01<@JAA>At least https://matrix.org/docs/communities/moderation/ doesn't mention it as an option.
21:05:13<f_>yeah I don't think it has
21:05:17<@JAA>lol
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21:06:34<@JAA>Our future email replacement! Imagine a mailing list without being able to moderate messages before they get sent to subscribers. lol
21:06:49<f_>:D
21:07:47<f_>JAA: though where did you read about it being an email replacement?
21:07:59<@JAA>The orange site, somewhere.
21:08:21<@JAA>It was a submission about Mox.
21:09:04<that_lurker>someone most likely mentioned chatmail
21:09:07<@JAA>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34922675
21:09:46<nicolas17><steering> I just wanna know how big it is :P
21:09:49<nicolas17>that's what she said
21:09:50<f_>lol
21:09:52<steering>true
21:09:57<steering>also what he said though
21:09:58<@JAA>nicolas17 bonk++
21:09:58<eggdrop>[karma] 'nicolas17 bonk' now has 4 karma!
21:10:04<f_>nicolas17 bonk++
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21:12:10<NatTheCat>bonks bonks everywhere
21:13:28<f_>wait what was it about
21:13:33<f_>nicolas17 bonk--
21:13:33<eggdrop>[karma] 'nicolas17 bonk' now has 4 karma!
21:13:44<f_>:p
21:15:33<@JAA>I remember when I first did it on fireonlive.
21:17:07<nicolas17>lewd
21:19:09<nulldata>fireonlive++
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21:21:28<Barto>fireonlive++
21:21:29<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 910 karma!
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21:28:27<f_>nicolas17: Ah. So I'd rather not know
21:28:31<f_>fireonlive++
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