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02:11:04<pabs>in case anyone here uses Oracle cloud stuff https://mastodon.de/@ErikUden/113930010311998246
02:20:51<nulldata>Ah https://mastodon.de/@ErikUden/113930176963645558
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03:13:51<@JAA>> I paid them money. I still do. I also won't make any efforts to stop them from taking my money (additionally, I currently can't even do that, since I can't login to my account as it was deleted, although I'm seeing a charge for the next month).
03:13:55<@JAA>lol
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03:19:58<@JAA>wut: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/root-certificate-expiration
03:21:28<@JAA>Zero technical information of what that root cert was actually used for. And a lot of the text there are things that sound completely nuts to be caused by an expiring cert...
03:21:57<nicolas17>seems like it's for signing addons, not for TLS?
03:22:24<@JAA>That's the impression I got first, but then later it talks about blocklists for addons, revocations etc., so now I have no idea.
03:25:45<TheTechRobo>Hold on, did Mozilla change its logo? That support page has the one I remember (moz://a), but mozilla.org seems to have another
03:26:43<@JAA>There's a topic at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1468274 where people asked the same question. Apparently there's a hardcoded certificate in the code.
03:28:31<TheTechRobo>Release notes for 128 say "The root certificate used to verify add-ons and signed content has been renewed to avoid upcoming expiration."
03:28:42<TheTechRobo>Not sure what "signed content" means.
03:28:49<TheTechRobo>(https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/128.0/releasenotes/)
03:39:42<@JAA>TheTechRobo: Also, re logo, yes: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annualreport/2024/article/a-rebrand-and-a-call-to-action-reclaim-the-internet/
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03:57:22<opl>JAA: i vaguely recall something about firefox deploying hotfixes through remotely installed addons or something similar to that? could be that that system uses the same certs. [citation needed] though
04:00:55<@JAA>opl: Yeah, hotfix addons were a thing, but that was abandoned and removed completely several years ago.
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04:01:39<opl>drat. i guess that's not it then. good to know
04:03:20<@JAA>Ah no. While what I said isn't wrong, there's still a similar system called 'system add-ons'.
04:03:56<@JAA>https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/system-addons/
04:04:49<opl>tangentially, i found this fun page which doesn't seem to be loading styles https://blocked.cdn.mozilla.net/
04:10:13<opl>(er, it's a list of blocked addons + vague reasonings. dunno why i thought it'd be obvious from the domain name)
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14:51:56<nicolas17>https://x.com/NoumenonSec/status/1885889255450271854 is this usgov related? :/
14:51:56<eggdrop>nitter: https://xcancel.com/NoumenonSec/status/1885889255450271854
14:51:57<nicolas17>"Does anybody have a petabyte or two to lend for a bit for something extremely important for everybody while a more permanent solution is worked out... Can't go into detail but it's beyond critical that this gets done. Not exaggerating."
14:54:14<testing|m>A PB? Whatttt
15:18:28<kitonthenet>does anyone know if the elon guys getting the treasury systems or whatever means they can deny FDIC payments?
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17:55:27<nukke>kitonthenet: potentially? "this WSJ piece from December that says Trump may abolish FDIC and instead have deposits insured by…the Treasury Dept. Meaning if there’s a run on the banks and you want your funds covered, you’ll need to go through Elon https://www.wsj.com/finance/regulation/trump-advisers-bank-regulations-fdic-efa761dc"
17:57:07<kitonthenet>I tried looking but didn't find anything conrete, it's unsettling that there's no easy answer to that... maybe time to buy swiss bonds
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17:58:36<nukke>don't you mean $TRUMP and/or $MELANIA?
18:01:31<kitonthenet>has he rugged his shitcoin yet
18:21:43<Barto>https://bsky.app/profile/patstaresat.bsky.social/post/3lh7hr7og6227 lol
18:30:28<kitonthenet>I'm not familiar with this saga, who owns the copyright on this?
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18:36:32<nicolas17>Barto: seems they're misunderstanding who uploaded it
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20:37:55<Barto>post has been removed, interesting
20:38:36<nicolas17>Barto: https://bsky.app/profile/patstaresat.bsky.social/post/3lh7mbda3ns2i
20:38:39<Barto>disco elysium copyright is a mess
20:38:51<Barto>nicolas17: thx
20:39:20<Barto>seeding the hell out of it right now :-)
20:39:43<Barto>uploaded about 100GB already
20:40:13<nicolas17>>people actually using IA torrents
20:40:13<Barto>not getting tired of my gigabit fiber, not at all
20:40:14<nicolas17>amzing
20:40:36<nicolas17>"this item is currently being modified/updated by the task: modify_xml"
20:41:00<nicolas17>maybe just from people posting reviews?
20:41:18<nicolas17>lol if this invalidates the torrent
20:43:01<Barto>considering that torrents have a meta xml file, dang
20:43:35<Barto>and right, uploader != author
20:52:36<nicolas17>https://youtu.be/4XCkeN0XuqA
20:52:52<that_lurker>oh someone put the gog games folder to IA
20:53:38<that_lurker>Did something happen with Disco Elysium
21:02:14<Barto>that_lurker: the usual copyright stuffs. https://youtu.be/JGIGA8taN-M tries to summarize things... up to last year
21:02:24<Barto>sorry about the duration
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21:03:38<that_lurker>oh thanks. Shall watch that tomorrow :-)
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23:04:47<kitonthenet>when people upload their stuff I wish they'd upload a copy of the sources too, emulation only gets us so far
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