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02:18:57<@imer>oh boy, youtube does auto-translated audio now: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/15569972
02:19:19<nicolas17>yeah I fucking hate it
02:20:00<nicolas17>it seems to be under control of the channel owner, not the user
02:20:29<@imer>auto-translated video titles have been annoying me already, hope they don't default to non-original sound >.>
02:20:41<@imer>just spotted that randomly on one of aves videos
02:21:23<nicolas17>I have seen it default to the dubbed audio in a discord embed
02:21:55<@imer>ok it didnt default to it unlike the video titles, thats good
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07:55:42<lunax>Wait, via AI youtube dubbs? Or maybe they just using custom audio tracks like (...) Mr Beast?
07:56:22<lunax>> auto-transleted video titles
07:57:07<lunax>I am still using JP location (sometimes whole language) to youtube not translating.
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18:12:58<nulldata>DeepSeek doesn't like freedom https://x.com/Malcoreio/status/1884243446732620150
18:12:59<eggdrop>nitter: https://xcancel.com/Malcoreio/status/1884243446732620150
18:31:29<IDK>haha im not banned yet
18:31:37<IDK>(yes ive tested the water)
18:32:03<IDK>tbh, im wondering if deepseek have something to do with the invasive bytespider
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20:41:49<nukke>https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/
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20:45:50that_lurker already started to procrastinate on the project to self-host mail with stalwart
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20:58:39<nukke>I just paid for migadu today. gonna start migrating this week
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21:05:47<that_lurker>I also took a look at https://purelymail.com/
21:06:00<steering>what on earth is JMAP
21:06:28<steering>I would love to self-host my email again, but well. Spam.
21:06:35<steering>I can't live without a spam filter anymore
21:06:42<steering>(a good one :p)
21:07:46<nukke>fun read https://gab-menezes.github.io/2025/01/13/using-the-most-unhinged-avx-512-instruction-to-make-the-fastest-phrase-search-algo.html
21:09:09<nukke>that_lurker: looks nice, but I already got bit in the butt with a couple of alternative email providers (openmailbox, cock.li)
21:09:19<nukke>although cockli is still around
21:10:17<nukke>h nice they do support unlimited custom domains!
21:10:42<that_lurker>oh yeah forgot about cock.li. I think I still have edison@loves.dicksinhisan.us there :-P
21:11:39<that_lurker>steering: stalwart seems to have really good spam filtering
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21:12:50<that_lurker>riseup would also be an interesting choice, though nowadays getting an invite is next to impossible
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21:14:28<nukke>there's also tutanota, but unfortunately , and just like proton, no imap/pop support
21:14:41<nukke>(unless it's possible now *without* using a bridge)
21:15:39<nukke>my secondary right now is posteo, but unfortunately they don't support custom domains
21:17:37<steering>stalwart's webpage seems... very buzzword heavy
21:17:39<steering>and like
21:18:35<that_lurker>yeah its best to just read the code in github
21:18:59<steering>what do I care about scaling, I can run postfix and dovecot on a potato, how much does stalwart need for fancy things like "Seamless load balancing and fault tolerance"
21:20:15<nukke>huh, mxroute looks nice https://mxroute.blackfriday/
21:20:20<nukke>found here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42836818
21:20:36<nicolas17>hm wasn't cock.li banned by KDE
21:21:15<nicolas17>yeah, I think they had even worse domains in the past
21:21:31<nulldata>If you're wanting hosted mail and not opposed to Microsoft - you could create a M365 business tenant and get a 50GB Exchange mailbox for $4/month
21:21:59<that_lurker>steering: For one person mail you don't need to care about that unless you want high availability. Does not need that much resources unless you have a lot of users
21:22:20<steering>that_lurker: yes, exactly
21:22:54<steering>lol @ mxroute's lifetime
21:23:31<nicolas17>yeah, kde.org banned cock.li's mailserver after someone emailed from a something@nuke.africa email
21:24:20<steering>$75 for 5GB forever would actually be not bad but well... lifetime offers don't usually end up working very well
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21:25:27<steering>why not nuke.america 🤷‍♂️
21:26:48<nicolas17>steering: https://theonion.com/fbi-uncovers-al-qaeda-plot-to-just-sit-back-and-enjoy-c-1819576375/
21:27:30<steering>fair point
21:27:51<nicolas17>note the date
21:28:21<nukke>people keep saying america is collapsing but we keep going up 🚀
21:28:39<steering>Personally I really don't care about someone else managing it for me
21:28:42<nukke>once the us colonizes the moon, "to the moon" will take a whole nother meaning
21:29:06<steering>I'd just stuff my email on a VPS somewhere if not for the fact that SpamAssassin sucks :P
21:30:10<steering>I've been thinking about just keeping my Workspace subscription for inbound email, and letting Gmail handle spam, but moving storage and sending off to one of my servers
21:31:19<steering>personally, I vote for Elon Musk to lead the expedition to mars
21:31:35<steering>unless there's an expedition to the sun in which case he can lead that one
21:34:07<that_lurker>steering: There is also rspamd
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21:39:53<steering>is it any better?
21:40:18<steering>to be fair I also haven't used SpamAssassin in many years, it could be better
21:40:43<steering>but it used to be useless, sure it'd block nigerian princes or whatever but that was about it
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21:48:42<@JAA>Riseup is fine, yeah. My only annoyance is that I can't disable the spam filter entirely.
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21:48:49<that_lurker>I think they all have come a long way. Of course the filtering done by the big mail providers will always be better as they get a whole lot more mail flow and have people to analyse the spam
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21:50:19<that_lurker>JAA: Thats weid. one would think that would be possible on riseup
21:50:39<that_lurker>s/weid/weird
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21:51:08<@JAA>You can reduce the sensitivity, but even at the minimum, it still classifies stuff as spam for me.
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21:52:08<@JAA>And it prepends '***SPAM***' to the subject, so now my client-side filter probably thinks that's a hallmark of spam. lol
21:53:21<nicolas17>JAA: that would also break DKIM and stuff, so a client-side filtering doing its own checks on that...
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21:54:27<@JAA>Indeed
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21:54:53<@JAA>It does add a X-Spam-Prev-Subject header, so I guess you could rig that up.
21:55:17<@JAA>Maybe I should ask them again about this.
21:55:55<@JAA>I'm pretty sure their sensitivity setting just increases the required SpamAssassin score to classify something as spam.
21:56:05<@JAA>So they could just add an 'off' option that sets that to a billion or something.
21:58:22<that_lurker>do they also add X-Spam-Flag: yes
21:58:33<@JAA>Yes
21:58:36<@JAA>Well, no
21:58:43<@JAA>It's 'YES'. :-P
21:58:53<`>/)
21:59:06<@JAA>There's also:
21:59:07<@JAA>X-Spam-Level: **************
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22:01:11<that_lurker>I don't understand why spam would need anything else after settings X-Spam-Flag
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22:05:15<@JAA>It also gets moved to a separate folder, so yeah, no idea.
22:09:41<steering>so, I've been staying at my new house, and haven't set up my desktop yet, so I'm on my laptop, which is Windows 11. My first time using 11 more than a few minutes at a time.
22:10:00<`>haha windows 11 user above me
22:10:37<that_lurker>steering: May your suffering be short and your linux iso ready.
22:11:02<steering>For some reason when I run ssh (from the Run box), it ends up at the bottom of the alt+tab "stack"
22:11:15<steering>every single time
22:11:18<steering>much fun
22:12:09<that_lurker>why not just open the terminal app and run ssh from there. You can also change the awful powershell background color with it
22:12:16<steering>win+r, ssh ..., tap my yubikey, type in some command or whatever, alt+tab back to the last window to reference something, alt+tab again and paste and... oops wrong window
22:12:36<steering>err, my background is black, probably because my default terminal is cmd
22:13:14<that_lurker>ahh. Do you still use powershells openssh for ssh or something else?
22:13:18<`>steering: do we need to ship pyou a usb stick with openbsd
22:13:39<steering>and yes I could open terminal first but this is just my process on windows, and has been for many many years
22:13:49<steering>(with the exception that historically it would've been putty $host instead of ssh $host)
22:14:06<steering>and well, it's not "powershell's", it's just a .exe, but yes, I use the builtin windows ssh
22:14:29<@JAA>If one of you wants a Riseup invite code, let me know.
22:14:33<steering>they finally have a version that supports Kerberos auth built-in now so I don't have to go get the updated version from their github :P
22:14:42<that_lurker>JAA: yes please :-)
22:14:50<that_lurker>I want to mald with the spam filter too :-P
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22:19:44<steering>`: no worries btw i have a gentoo live image on my usb stick ;)
22:20:25<`>go ahead then pull up firefox
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22:34:57<that_lurker>or install rust
22:37:11<steering>probably wouldn't be too terrible, might need more RAM, 16GB is a bit of a tight squeeze to build stuff like that in tmpfs
22:38:49<steering>only takes half an hour on my desktop and my laptop would probably be faster
22:39:28<steering>(firefox only takes half an hour, that is. apparently i've been getting binary builds of rust)
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