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00:05:48<nicolas17>steering: and now we all run stuff as root inside containers!
00:06:13<nicolas17>(I think we should do something about that in dpos btw)
00:06:32<kpcyrd>steering: troff I never heard off, but the mail binary was quite something in the past
00:06:53<kpcyrd>if I recall correctly it potentially had the suid bit set even
00:08:03<steering>nicolas17: yes, usually without even checking things like the paths mounted into it :P
00:09:03<kpcyrd>"how do I send a textfile to a different user? of course have euid set to 0 and call setuid to become the user you want to email.."
00:09:08<steering>(not to mention giving them full access to your network from privileged ports, although thankfully that matters much less these days)
00:09:52<steering>kpcyrd: yeah, the paper says that both of them were setuid on systems the author checked
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00:10:15<steering>I have no idea why troff would be setuid, it's the thing that turns manpages into displayable text
00:11:25<steering>mail like... yes I'm sure it's to do with writing the files itself... but obviously you're listening on the network to receive mail (remotely) and sending to the network to send mail (remotely), so why not do it locally too and not need setuid...
00:11:51<steering>(or make it setuid or setgid to some dedicated user that owns the relevant directories... duh)
00:12:36<steering>it's not something like ping where it needs to be privileged to do raw networking ffs :D
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07:30:54<@JAA>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/5xPGX/this_is_not_fine.jpg
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07:40:20<that_lurker>holy shit
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09:13:12<steering>population density--
09:13:12<eggdrop>[karma] 'population density' now has -1 karma!
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09:17:18<pabs>JAA: where is that??
09:37:10<joepie91|m>I imagine that's the LA fires?
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11:19:33<magmaus3>https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2025/01/08/gayfemboy-0-day-router-attacks-ongoing-what-you-need-to-know/
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13:54:17<that_lurker>fireonlive++
13:54:18<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 843 karma!
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15:52:53<that_lurker>https://status.proton.me/ "We are currently experiencing intermittent network issues affecting some of our users. We are working to fully restore services as soon as possible. We apologize for the inconvenience."
15:54:28<nukke>finally! I thought it was my firewall blocking things
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17:22:53<alittleglitchy>proton is back up for me
17:23:14<alittleglitchy>wait no... calendar is still down
17:52:19<yano>yeah, it keeps coming and going
17:59:03<@arkiver>let's hope this is all because they are introducing a great new feature and it needs some quick fixes like our projects sometimes :P
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18:33:00<alittleglitchy>Hahaha I hope so!
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19:01:03<nukke>NSA backdoor causing more issues than expected
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19:17:30<yano>https://status.proton.me/incidents/wt2fwstm0rcg
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19:26:40<Webuser861053>Is it just my setup or is the URLs project stalled?
19:32:14<nstrom|m>not you, it's paused temporarily (for past few days) while some issues are getting sorted out. also --> #//
19:33:25<Webuser861053>Thanks!
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20:33:05<Barto>nukke: i just watched the 38c3 talk about the dude sending toslink to fiber, that might be him!
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21:27:55<@JAA>pabs, joepie91|m: Yeah, LA, more specifically Pacific Palisades.
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22:53:33<nulldata>https://automattic.com/2025/01/09/aligning-automattics-sponsored-contributions-to-wordpress/
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22:53:56<nulldata>"To recalibrate and ensure our efforts are as impactful as possible, Automattic will reduce its sponsored contributions to the WordPress project."
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22:59:36<nukke>Hahaha what the heck
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23:09:26<@JAA>> We’re excited to return to active contributions to WordPress core, Gutenberg, Playground, Openverse, and WordPress.org when the legal attacks have stopped.
23:10:15<@JAA>That's a lot of words for 'drop your lawsuit if you want us to continue working on WordPress the software'.
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23:48:59<steering>he really is just trying to kill WordPress now isn't he
23:48:59<steering>lmao
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