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03:04:06<nukke>holy shit
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03:04:11<nukke>nvidia just killed amd live on stage
03:12:10<@imer>did they name their gpus something else?
03:12:19<@imer>that'd be real funny
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03:14:42<@imer>ah its probably https://x.com/needlessrelic16/status/1876464658510684337/photo/1 "5070 | 4090 performance 549$"
03:14:43<eggdrop>nitter: https://xcancel.com/needlessrelic16/status/1876464658510684337/photo/1
03:15:06<@imer>thats gotta be with upscaling though
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03:21:01<nukke>yeah "4090 performance" can mean anyhting. gaming? AI? content creation?
03:21:07<nukke>16GB vs 24GB VRAM
03:21:53<nukke>then again, 4070 was basically a 3090 in terms of gaming perf, but worse in terms of AI due to memory limitations
03:22:28<nukke>assuming DLSS4 is 50x0 only, then yeah 5070 = 4090 is very likely
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03:27:33<@imer>It'll be sick if it actually is - don't get me wrong I'm all for faster hardware, but given how these promises usually work out I'm sceptical :)
03:30:16<nukke>yeah the main thing is efficiency. even if it's 90% of the performance, as long as it's 40-50% of energy consumption, not bad!
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18:28:27<FireFly>I never remember which is which of -bs and -ot tbh :p
18:29:29<@JAA>It'd be nice if there were a small piece of text you could attach to a channel, which would be displayed somewhere prominently in all IRC clients.
18:30:13<steering>prominent? who ever looks at the top of the window? ;)
18:30:15<FireFly>could even call it something like.. 'topic'
18:30:24<steering>tbh I should probably move the topic bar down by the statusbar actually
18:30:29<steering>tis not a bad idea
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18:37:09<kiska>JAA: Hetzner got sick of me calling them every 2 hours https://paste.kiska.pw/CongregatedGirosol
18:37:23<kiska>So I get a 2 week timeout from doing so... for the mean time
18:38:04<nicolas17>why, urls?
18:40:12<kiska>No clue...
18:44:16<kiska>But anyway, 2 weeks, then I am going to call them daily for 2 weeks. If that doesn't give me back my account, then the time between calls will halve
18:45:18<@JAA>1 week of daily calls. Half a week of two calls daily. A quarter of a week of four calls daily. Etc.
18:45:51<kiska>So my initial plans... daily calls for 2 weeks, then 12 hourly calls for a further 2 weeks, 6 hourly calls for about 2-3 weeks(depending on my schedule)
18:46:14<kiska>At some point I'll have their number on screen for me to call right back when I hang up
18:47:10<kiska>So yeah in my first phase I envision calling 10 times(business days)
18:47:40<kiska>ie 5 times per week, then 10 times per week, etc etc
18:48:55<nicolas17>Zeno's customer support call
18:49:22<kiska>They will not like me if I get to the stage of having multiple phone calls on
18:50:17<kiska>I guess if they terminate my account, I suppose I'll skip to calling them every minute
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18:53:17<@JAA>The calls will continue until the account standing improves.
19:05:05<kiska>JAA: Correct
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20:14:32<a_dog>(from #ab) Tue@1222.22 < szczot3k|t> JAA: my connection to szczot3k broke, sorry for cutting out in the middle. Could you also please do https://abrnoc.com/? It's supposedly the same owner as Cloudzy.
20:14:48<szczot3k>a_dog?
20:14:50<a_dog>are there really two different Mohammad Reza working there?
20:14:58<a_dog>(their "team")
20:15:02<szczot3k>I dunno. The team looks fake
20:15:04<@JAA>https://www.reuters.com/technology/cloud-company-assisted-17-different-government-hacking-groups-us-researchers-2023-08-01/
20:15:21<a_dog>and also, hover over "Ali"'s photo (2nd row left side)
20:15:24<@JAA>The entire thing stinks.
20:15:42<katia>a_dog, posting about on topic on -ot?
20:15:49katia sets mode: +b a_dog!*@*
20:16:13<a_dog>is their team being fake really ontopic tho?
20:19:38<a_dog>JAA: that story seems kinda... ehh...
20:20:05<a_dog>shady host - yes, front for iran - no, probably not
20:20:34<szczot3k>Francisco claims he has good enough contract with them, so they don't either rugpull, or change the pricing/feature set
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20:20:47<katia>moving .lu is already a rugpull
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20:21:23<szczot3k>He explained the .lu move pretty well, bad provider, no remote hands
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20:22:19<szczot3k>He'd probably move lu either way
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22:41:24<nulldata>https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/07/us/las-vegas-cybertruck-explosion-livelsberger/index.html
22:41:39<nulldata>"Sheriff Kevin McMahill said at a Tuesday news conference the soldier, Matthew Livelsberger, started using Chat GPT to get information on how to conduct his plot."
22:42:13<nicolas17>https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4698/15/1/6
22:42:24<nicolas17>"The findings revealed a significant negative correlation between frequent AI tool usage and critical thinking abilities, mediated by increased cognitive offloading."
22:52:55<szczot3k>isn't it a little too early to 'reaveal' something like that?
22:53:45<a_dog>causation, or correlation? ;)
22:55:24<@JAA>I could easily see it being both cause and effect. Proving that would be hard though. Showing correlation is easier.
22:58:28<a_dog>"mediated by increased cognitive offloading" seems to claim that it is causation
22:58:41<szczot3k>It really depends on the context. I was reading through x509 rfcs for a project at work, and asked chatgpt some really small, random question. Dod it have a significant nefative correlation between critical thinking abilities? Probably not, reading the spec was hard enough, the question could also be googled in the same time frame.
22:58:53<szczot3k>s/Dod/Did
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23:00:31<szczot3k>Does it have a large effect while coding for example? Sure, asking it to create entire snippets of code might actually have a correlation
23:01:54<@OrIdow6>Is this just "Is Google Making Us Stupid?" again?
23:03:17<@JAA>Francisco commented on the Iran thing, by the way: https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/8949/for-immediate-release-buyvm-joins-cloudzy-ai#Comment_203599
23:05:01<@OrIdow6>Anyhow clearly before chatgpt a trained soldier would have no way of acquiring or using weapons and explosives in order to blow up a car famous for exploding and cause superficial damage to the immediate area. We must ban all non-straight porn immediately to counteract this threat
23:05:10<szczot3k>They're also active on Frantech discord t o any questions by the way
23:05:40<@JAA>lol, just now saw the title of the report those articles are based on: 'Cloudzy with a Chance of Ransomware'
23:06:17<szczot3k>In general the fact that "bad actors" are using servers which you can buy cheap, isn't surprising
23:06:28<szczot3k>Fran also takes crypto payments for example
23:06:46<@JAA>https://20688644.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/20688644/Website%20Collateral%20-%20Static/Halcyon_Cloudzy_C2P_Report.pdf
23:06:52<Flashfire42>https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gna! archiveteam gets a mention in russian wikipedia nice
23:10:19<szczot3k>There's not a lot to do when someone wants to run ransomware campaign from your network. Unless they're trying to register under "Russian Ransomware Campaign Ltd.", you don't have much to do before provisioning, and even after they're doing bad stuff on your infra, finding it out (assuming no abuse reports) in an age of TLS is hard
23:11:06<szczot3k>A server getting connection from a lot of IPs... is just a more popular webserver for example
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23:12:44<szczot3k>Especially when you're paying with crypto
23:13:24<szczot3k>Even if not paying with crypto, what can you do before? Check if they're not on any sanctions list, and maybe if they're not using a stolen CC
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23:25:35<a_dog>szczot3k:
23:25:39<a_dog>I mean, KYC
23:25:46<a_dog>plenty of providers require ID
23:25:52<a_dog>most require at least a CC or something
23:25:58<a_dog>that cuts down on it uhh... quite a bit
23:29:27<szczot3k>Not really
23:30:17<szczot3k>I give my ID to Frantech. They check that I’m not on any sanctions list, and my CC isn’t stolen
23:30:36<szczot3k>Now what?
23:31:28<szczot3k>Also in 2025 getting someone’s id and cc isn’t the hardest thing in the world. Especially in a state sponsored attack
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23:35:09<a_dog>"now what" - the police come after you
23:35:24<a_dog>and yes, it could be stolen, that does happen. significantly less than just using a provider that accepts crypto.
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23:38:27<a_dog>(and yes, some people are stupid enough to do actually-illegal stuff-against-companies under their own name as well, also significantly less often)