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| 01:37:24 | <kpcyrd> | steering: I'm not really worried about the quarantine feature being abused, the game theory for this is likely going to be reputation-based, e.g. only few people get this privilege and they have their image at stake |
| 01:39:59 | <kpcyrd> | I also don't understand how provenance is relevant for the ultralytics attack |
| 01:40:12 | <@JAA> | It isn't. |
| 01:40:53 | <nicolas17> | I think it's like "if we required signed software this wouldn't have happened!" "the malware was signed" "oh" |
| 01:41:04 | <kpcyrd> | I don't know enough about trusted publishers to say if it would've helped. I've heard the github actions cache was poisoned, which was why the follow up releases were also malicious. |
| 01:41:32 | <@JAA> | Yeah, turns out when the environment that's trusted is compromised, signatures don't mean anything. Who'd've thunk it? |
| 01:41:48 | <kpcyrd> | code signing is a failed attempt to aid over the fact there's no code review system in place (there, I said it) |
| 01:42:01 | <@JAA> | kpcyrd: Ultralytics people themselves have stated that it woudln't have helped. Here, at the very bottom: https://github.com/ultralytics/ultralytics/pull/18020 |
| 01:42:16 | <kpcyrd> | it's like a code review system but the person doing the review also happens to be the author |
| 01:44:34 | <kpcyrd> | for do-not-track: last time this was tried it was still established consensus that "computer people do whatever they want anyways" aka "the pre-gdpr era" |
| 01:44:41 | <anarcat> | do-not-stab |
| 01:45:07 | <nicolas17> | https://www.5snb.club/posts/2023/do-not-stab/ |
| 01:45:18 | <kpcyrd> | just make EU make it legaly binding pretty please |
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| 02:10:21 | <immibis> | Ultralytics sounds like something that would make the world a better place if you got a virus when you installed it on your website |
| 02:11:24 | <kpcyrd> | computer ultras |
| 02:15:21 | <@OrIdow6> | Oh, of course it's a neural network |
| 02:15:54 | <@OrIdow6> | All the people pulling bitcoin scams have migrated there now, it's natural |
| 02:16:00 | <@OrIdow6> | for them to do stuff like this |
| 02:23:42 | <immibis> | did you see an AI spammer got on the front page of hacker news? and after that I saw a message on NANOG saying: you should probably reconsider being these guys' ISP or email provider |
| 02:27:03 | <pabs> | https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2024/dec/12/linux-banned-russian-contributors-do-i-need-to/ |
| 02:28:21 | <pabs> | https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/70895.html |
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| 02:35:56 | <@OrIdow6> | immibis: Like, they got their LLama copy-and-paste to get upvoted? |
| 02:36:19 | <@OrIdow6> | Or was it that thing a year ago where someone wrote something with ChatGPT |
| 03:08:49 | <immibis> | no they were just advertising their new startup that spams people with LLMs |
| 03:09:11 | <immibis> | Over email |
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| 04:23:54 | <steering> | so im staying at my dads house and... ugh his internet is so bad :( it's cable, but it feels like DSL |
| 04:24:21 | <steering> | if my daughter's watching something on her tablet (or the roku), i can't be watching something on my laptop without switching to cellular |
| 04:25:14 | <steering> | guess it's a good thing i have "unlimited" with 35GB FUP just so i can get data-only sims xD |
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| 04:44:45 | <steering> | oh... actually, it probably is DSL, looks like it's AT&T |
| 04:45:17 | <steering> | 8x1 :| https://www.speedtest.net/result/17127160681.png |
| 04:49:30 | <@JAA> | Impressive |
| 04:53:12 | <@JAA> | I think my best nearby chance of getting speeds that low would be moving to Germany. |
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| 04:56:16 | <myself> | steering: do they have SQM configured on their router? https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat |
| 05:02:14 | <@OrIdow6> | Surprised you get that fast of speeds thru cellular, guess that's the benefit of living in a flat area |
| 05:12:54 | <nulldata> | I thought he said DSL? AT&T has Wireless, DSL, and Fiber depending on the area. |
| 05:16:54 | <nulldata> | But yeah - that's slower than what I can pull down from AT&T Wireless lol 29x7.45 |
| 05:18:25 | <nulldata> | On a Verizon Wireless MVNO - 209x1.9 |
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| 06:15:28 | <steering> | OrIdow6: that was DSL speed |
| 06:15:41 | <steering> | cell is significantly faster... |
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| 06:16:25 | <steering> | 35x13 right now (LTE, i dont think my modem supports 5G) |
| 06:17:43 | <steering> | 200x1.5 (lol upload) on my phone |
| 06:19:02 | <steering> | (TMobile / Google Fi for both) |
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| 12:17:08 | <@OrIdow6> | Apparently TVTropes stopped logged-out viewers from viewing history earlier this year as an "SEO optimization" https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15374859790A10773600&page=98#comment-2443 |
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| 14:07:56 | <immibis> | why would you expect a site to track your viewing history for you |
| 14:13:06 | <masterx244|m> | immibis: it talks about article history aka previous versions |
| 14:13:17 | <masterx244|m> | that part got loginwalled in that change |
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| 20:09:15 | <@JAA> | Discogs did this as well several years ago, though I don't know what the reasoning there was. |
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| 21:27:18 | <@JAA> | https://web.archive.org/web/20241213174136/https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4000004/test/ |
| 21:27:28 | <@JAA> | (404s now depending on your location) |
| 21:31:19 | <@imer> | nice |
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